Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

No. Most, practically all of the turns on Carysfort and Stillorgan Pk are on the same sides of these road. So if they changed direction and came up Carysfort and turn right onto Stillorgan pk the vast majority of turns into estates and parks are on the left hand side. So no right turns. Simples!

Am I genuinely missing something here? You said re Stillorgan pk:

“The proposal for stillorgan park includes removing right filter turns into local housing estates, how are Waste disposal trucks going to get access then, are they going to sit in long lines of traffic waiting to turn.”

and I responded

“So if they changed direction and came up Carysfort and turn right onto Stillorgan pk the vast majority of turns into estates and parks are on the left hand side. So no right turns” and by implication no long lines of traffic waiting to turn.

I can’t make it any simpler.

Ah surely, there's something else you can object to - maybe the bin lorry drivers are wearing the wrong colour socks, or some other utter disaster that the good people of Blackrock couldn't possibly be expected to put up with?

Does anybody know, is Lr Georges St due to reopen to traffic from the end of the month? It will be a shame if it does!

New double yellow lines down on parts on the street. So i would presume it will revert. I know talking to someone that the traders were complaining that business is way down since it was pedestrianised.

Maybe less ears and more eyes, then you could read previous posts and learn why!!!!!!!

Would you not just wait for the evaluation of the pilot to be completed, before jumping to conclusions?

Don't worry Mav, I have it on good authority that the full pedestrianisation will not be returning, the Councillors have received considerable heat about it from a significant cross-section.

Enhancements to the new square will come under a full Part 8 application but the street itself will return to use by buses, taxis, cycles and local deliveries for the long term (albeit that all traffic will return for a time after 1st October until new parameters are agreed long term)

Don't be ridiculous, of course there was a reduction in traffic, there was no traffic whatsoever on Lr Georges st, the area under consideration, not Deansgrange which you seem to be obsessed with!

The Council executive are carrying out a statistical evaluation, sure, but politically its already put to bed.

While I suspect that you may be correct and another "ready up" is about to be pulled by our esteemed council, it will be interesting to request an FOI on the evaluation, if it is not published. If it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense and I'm fine with that, maybe not overly happy, but fine with it..

I will certainly out of interest, seek FOI details of the "rigorous assessment" promised by Burns in the IT May 22nd below:

"Mr Burns acknowledged the project was “not without its challenges”. The council had decided to implement the pedestrianisation for a three-month trial he said, after which it would undergo a rigorous assessment with a decision next year on whether the street should be pedestrianised full time or on a seasonal basis only."

I daresay you can FoI all you like, but because the trial wasn't carried out under any particular traffic or planning legislation, or under a byelaw, they haven't obligated themselves to do anything one way or the other, which is both prudent and problematic depending on your perspective.

For me, this extract from the Council's statement of Thursday last in relation to the topic, is very telling.

 Its about as non-committal to any specific course of action as one could get. I think their fanfare publication of the data that footfall had increased by just 13% really shot themselves in the foot. It was thereafter that Councillors really began getting heat about the buses and so on.