New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Why not go full Shaira and ban alcohol, tobacco and porn...?

Anyway, give it another week they'll have adverts for chinese online betting providers in between programs.

Yeah but what are the odds someone from Ladbrokes actually watches the channel?

No it's not. It's the usual "victim" crap

I don't know how good of a riposte it is tbh, since it appears they have a tiny viewership generally.

Sounds more like they want to start a movement than a TV station though.

In all fairness, the guy is a comedian.

No because at least you get alcohol tobacco and porn for your money instead of throwing it away for nothing.

edit: and I would be happy to see all gambling advertising, like tobacco advertising, banned.

Talk about low expectations.

Ah, there's you're misconception - the idea the gambling doesn't have a return.

Sometimes, people just do it for fun and dunt expect a return. You really think that 1 euro bet on elvis returning is an investment...?

Anyway, banning something you dont understand or want to understand is ignorant, and I'm leaving this here as I don't want to drag the thread off topic.

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Mmmmm. I find it to be a rather popular "method" these days, particularly in the US, where this type of message is pumped out. There's no questions asked, there's no counterpoint, there's no argument. It's just simply preaching to the choir. Telling your audience what they want to hear and not allowing any interference happen to the propaganda being issued. There's also a penchant for so called "interviews" to occur between people with exactly the same points of view who are automatically at some sort of consensus as if that was supposed to pass for an open discussion.

It's also accompanied by this idea that if an interviewer offers a counterpoint, asks an awkward question, or even just outright proves the interviewee wrong, then that interviewer is somehow "biased". You'd melt your face reading some YouTube comments under some interviews where people of a particular political persuasion (usually to the right, I have to say) lose their shit and start sqwaking about "biased interviewers". I found it particularly hilarious while watching some YouTube uploads of a show called "Hardtalk' that had fanbois of a particular person start whinging about the "lefty" interviewer because he was asking some difficult questions of the interviewee. The name and purpose of the show was obviously lost on them.

It's been an observation to have over the past 10 years or so and a real indication of just how poor political debate has become.

Well I don’t think I made it a CNN v Fox or Left v Right issue to be fair. It’s an element of political discourse that seems very popular in the US and which channels like GB News and Sky News Australia seem to have adopted very enthusiastically.

I guess though what I find interesting is that many people, who seem to sway towards the Right, bemoan the bulldozer of the allegedly Left-biased media while they (the self-proclaimed free thinkers of this world) only want honest and open debate not shackled by political correctness, wokeism or a Leftist agenda.

But in choosing or creating alternative media sources, they don’t look for honest and open debate — they look for material that will Just tell them what they want to hear, delivered confidently by charismatic newsreaders who “say it like it is” and deliver their thoughts as truth rather than opinion .... essentially swapping the perceived shackles of the Left leaning mainstream media agenda for the shackles of the Right’s agenda.

The latest tirade from Patrick Christys sums it up really...complete with jingoistic references to the sinking of the French fleet at Mers-el-Kébir.

https://youtu.be/X3pUNFVC7hs

Indeed, and not only a “f**k you” for the purposes of ignorance and antagonism, but for the purposes of an agenda of invoking English nationalism as a mask for intellectual vacuity.

It is a sad and dangerous thing that has been unleashed in British politics in recent years — the clumsy, jingoistic, bullish strategy of making enemies of European neighbours and allies to further careers both in politics and media.

How many people here, on this Irish website, do you think watch CNN?

Agreed. The only time I've watched CNN in maybe the last 3-4 years has been the US election results and I threw it on during the Jan 6th riots too. Other than that, why would I bother.

I really think is a very tried old argument. You have no idea what anyone else watches in addition to CNN FOX whatever. And even if 'it's what they want to hear' it's what they think in the first place. Of course the press and channels cater to their audience.

I think the Right in the UK are right to bemoan the by far Left wing TV channels in the UK, certainly as far as social issues are concerned. Their press are mostly right wing I understand. Which incidentally would just go to prove the country itself is mostly right wing otherwise how could the papers sell, but that's not reflected in TV I don't think anyway.

Different rules apply to the broadcasting media. They are governed by the Ofcom Broadcasting Code, particularly - News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality. We have have similar rules here, the BAI Code Of Fairness, Objectivity And Impartiality In News And Current Affairs. The US however, got rid of it's FCC fairness doctrine in 1985, paving the way for Fox News.

I guess i would have to say this is a confusing post because, on one hand, you say that what I have written is a tired old argument ...but on the other hand...your post then goes on to confirm the very phenomenon I have spoken of.

You say my argument is tired, but at the same time admit that the media sources cater for their audience -- which is precisely the very point I am making. So when I say that the detractors of the so-called Left wing media don't create or follow any channel that is truly based on open neutral discussion -- but rather just channels that cater for their opinion -- then which part of my argument are you actually disagreeing with? You seem to be agreeing with it wholeheartedly.