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Ryder Cup 2020 [Official Thread!]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭kerry_man15




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    A full Irish inquiry with lots of barristers, going on for at least 5 years and costing no less than 50 million. That would show those Yanks we mean business.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭Ardillaun




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    Though he doesnt like to mention it himself....



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    We know what Harrington is like; there’s no doubt he took this job seriously and put everything he had into it. After that we were up against the form book and at some point in these events the Americans were bound to live up to their rankings. The current US players seemed better prepared for the Ryder Cup format than their predecessors.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,359 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,947 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Winning captains are brilliant and losing captains are terrible... Apparently

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,947 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Poulter wins another Sunday singles! Some record.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,947 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Nice to see Westwood get the singles win in his last ryder cup match.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,915 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Best team by a mile won. Time to move on.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    What??? You realise this is not like a football team type set up or management....these guys have their own individual sports management team, coaches and trainers. Harrington would be told where to go by them if he started getting onto these guys about the gym routines and rightly so as it's absolutely no of his business!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    So he didn’t. Thanks for confirming. What if Patrick Reed made the team? Would it then have been stricker’s fault that he was carrying some timber?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    I disagreed with one of Harrington's wildcard picks and with some his pairings over the weekend, but I don't think there's anything he could have done to change the outcome.

    The result may have been slightly less emphatic, but it still would have ended with an American victory.

    In order for Europe to win, Harrington needed some of the Americans to underperform (they didn't), every one of his own players to perform to their absolute pinnacle (they didn't) and then to also get the pairings right (which he arguably didn't either).

    The writing was on the wall once one of his stalwarts (McIlroy) played so badly on the first two days. He needed him to be scoring 3-4pts on days 1 and 2 and he scored zero.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭Russman


    Jaysus lads this is all a bit OTT. Fitness, losing the dressing room, bad management...? Wtf .

    Those two teams could play next week or next month on that course and the result wouldn’t be much different. If you let Europe pick the US pairings they still wouldn’t beat them. Look at the singles results, completely outclassed. They’re just way better at the moment, simple as. And there’s no shame in it either. All this other stuff is like Shamrock Rovers saying they could have beaten PSG if they’d only played 4,4,2 instead of 3,5,2. No offence intended Rovers 😀.

    I think we’ll have two more defeats, that course in Italy doesn’t look like we could do a Paris National on it, and then another home win for the US, and hopefully with the right setup down in Adare, GMac as captain and a few fresh faces, we’ll turn them over again.

    As an aside, for all the stick he gets, and I certainly would not have given him a pick, fair play to Poulter for winning another singles match.



  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    I wonder will Shane suffer from some fall out with Amercian's after yesterday.

    The majority won't be always some idiots out there



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    The demise of the European tour is a significant part of the root of the problem.

    Every aspect of the game is increasingly US based and it is not an easy journey to get onto that swing of US college / pro golf.

    The guys who are on way out grew in the European tour and flipped. This will be harder and harder to do.

    Yes people will do it , but our pool of players at highest level is diminishing.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    The best team won that is for sure but there was such tiny margins on missed putts that had they got in who knows what would have happened.

    Fleetwood missed 2 back to back and the ended up losing the match after being up(I think?)

    Shane's putt that somehow stayed out, that had gone in and he would have only been 1 down as he went on to win the next hole and plenty of others too.

    It wasn't meant to be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,488 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Mcillroy isn’t the only one getting emotional apparently.

    Crying was a bit much, I get that he was probably embarrassed about how he played the first two days, but at least he was consistent, he performed well when the pressure was off and there was nothing to play for.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭daithi7


    Tbf, a full review is needed according to McGinley. Not only is the US tour far superior to the European tour but they also play the president's Cup in the alternate years to the Ryder Cup, this is clearly giving them a testing ground for pairings, combos & matchplay. They're also way ahead off the course with things like analytics & other preparation aids


    It's clear Europe need to copy or better the US template in all of these areas if they are even hoping to compete, as well as adding further innovations & improvements themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,888 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Mcginely didn't help matters by broadcasting at every opportunity what the Europeans template was. He was like a spy in our team room after he left..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Like clockwork 🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,947 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Hopefully a few youngsters can emerge out of Europe like Hovland, it's been a while since we've had top class talent come through.

    Some have arrived and flattered to deceive in recent years probably not helped by the mess the European tour is in.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭IAmTitleist


    The Americans are literally better at golf than 8/9 of the European team.

    There is no more to it than that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Hopefully the Danish lads are as good as they appear to be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    One thing is for certain when the Ryder cup isn't a close contest it's an awful watch. This one and the one in Paris were a poor watch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭dball


    @Russman If you let Europe pick the US pairings they still wouldn’t beat them.


    Brilliant and so so true



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    What might help europe with some flexibility is looking to change the fact they are locked into nine players and only three picks on form where the US is six on merit and six on form.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,533 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    its my understanding the captain can choose to increase picks if they want



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    pool of players isn't there.


    captain could have 12 picks. how different would team look?


    european tour needs a look at itself as most of the older players euro team play on pga tour regularly. the quality gap is huge from pga to euro tour



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭daithi7


    In general, I think they could improve the Ryder Cup if courses were set up according to criteria laid out by an independent committee e.g. speed of greens, width of fairways, severity of rough and even approx guidance on tee and pin placings each day. It would make for a 'fairer' set up for the visiting side & might help garner closer results& finishes, and hence better viewing & a few more away victories.

    As it is, courses are just being set up for the home side which means the away side are playing them & the 'house'. Not easy.



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