The Rookie - US-Pace- ABC (Spoilers)

Mitch Connor · 23-09-2021 2:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117927167#Comment_117927167

I don't even know if it is an education piece - I just don't think a cop show can ignore social issues, police brutality and racial issues in the aftermath of the George Floyd murder.

I didn't particularly like Rookie last season, and I thought a lot of their messaging was overly heavy handed. I hope they pull back a bit from that this season. But I would say it is more so about trying to not glorify poor police processes - in the vast majority of cases of Police shows the police work you see is illegal. Cops going off on their gut, ends justify the means type stuff.

Agent Coulson · 27-09-2021 4:00am

Wow I didn't expect that cast exit and especially like that.

Absolutely cracking opening episode to the season.

Mr E · 27-09-2021 11:10am

Unceremonious, wasn't it? Yikes.

Great episode, glad this show is back.

Clareman · 27-09-2021 2:06pm

Wow, shot in the back so they didn't have to have the actor back even for a minute, surprised it happened so soon in the episode, decent episode and a good way to setup the season, can't see them going beyond this season though, they've gone through most storylines at this stage.

Mr E · 27-09-2021 4:20pm

I read that he wanted out at the end of Season 2.

He only did Season 3 because of the racist cop story with Brandon Routh.

EoinMcLovin · 27-09-2021 7:09pm

In the TVLine article they mention that the actor has been absent from social media since mid June and is not doing any exit interviews. It was kinda obvious he was gone due to him not appearing in any promotional material for this season

Agent Coulson · 27-09-2021 7:10pm

The Rookie showrunner Alexi Hawley shared he had no option but to kill off Jackson as Makin Jr. decided not to return.

Hawley said: "It's heartbreaking...but I didn't really have a choice. [Titus Makin Jr.] wasn't coming back, and because of the way we set things up with the [Season 3] finale, there was just no way to tell that story without Jackson.

"But we lean really hard into honoring how he was the heart of the show, and it was definitely impactful for us to have to deal with that."

He has not been active on social media since mid-June and he does not plan to do exit interviews, reported TV Line.

Makin Jr. has a successful music career under the name of Butterfly Ali, so he may have left the series to focus on other endeavors.

https://www.newsweek.com/rookie-season-4-why-titus-makin-jr-leave-jackson-west-dead-1632918

California Dreamer · 28-09-2021 7:25am

As good as a season opening episode that it was I thought it was a bit rushed. Leaving aside the Jackson thing getting shot, there was no funeral. No pomp and circumstance just '3 months later'.

The whole story of 3 beat cops going to South America to rescue a hostage was a bit of a stretch, but they could have pushed into a 2 parter.

Tom Mann Centuria · 28-09-2021 8:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948154#Comment_117948154

Lots of exposition from characters with some Walker Texas Ranger quality dialogue. Lawyer fella "yes I understand I will turn dirty and do all sorts of shady stuff like we discussed in a previous episode" a prime example.

Also very rushed. He's dead, next. You're no longer a rookie, next. Getting to Mexico will be a problem, yeah for at least a minute and a half, Bradford and Chan have a moment, next. Impenetrable, fortunately have a former builder, not impenetrable, but oh no, a gate has defeated us, hey ho, next. Found Jackson's killer in under 2 minutes, next Etc. Definitely needed 2 parter, and better writing.

Appreciate subtlety has never been The Rookie strong point but this was quite the episode!

Clareman · 29-09-2021 11:16am

So it's ok for police officers to go overseas, carry out a millitary operation to extract their friends and kill a foreign citizen while destroying government property........

California Dreamer · 04-10-2021 5:37pm

And this week, the beat cop team take down a criminal mastermind that has avoided capture by some of the best police forces in the world!

Nolan slaps the cuffs on and then she goes 'OW' but nothing about being shot in the shoulder!?

The new 'Jackson' has arrived.

I do not see this making it to a Season 5 the way the writing is this season. Much like episode 1, its all rushed!

California Dreamer · 05-10-2021 7:46am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117977297#Comment_117977297

Why are beat cops investigating anything? Thats not their job! As previously stated, some PC plods take down an international thief that the best police forces in the world couldn't do? Its all a bit unbelievable and I love the show.

Clareman · 05-10-2021 5:12pm

Well that was 50 minutes of my life I'll never get back, so the master thief who broke into the Vatican has to steal a laptop to get a route for jewellery and to do this she has to murder the designer and leave her body to be found, even though she had a "mater hacker" she had to take the actual laptop, not clone it or get the files off it. And for someone who's backups has backups surely having the police turn up would have meant a better backup than a shotgun?

The new Jackson is just that, the new Jackson, I've no problem with the "people like us" stuff because it's an important part of police work I'm sure but the whole "don't just me by my background, judge me by me" was done with Jackson where he was supposed to be the wonder cop cause of his father in IA but he wanted to prove himself and go his own way.

For me the Rookie is a show to watch when I'm doing other stuff like cooking the dinner and if I miss a few episodes I probably won't bother catching up with the 1s I missed and just go straight to the latest 1.

EoinMcLovin · 23-10-2021 12:41am

https://tvline.com/2021/10/22/the-rookie-gun-ban-explained-halyna-hutchins-death/

The Rookie EP Bans 'Live' Weapons From Set in Wake of Halyna Hutchins Tragedy: 'Any Risk Is Too Much Risk'

tv3tg4 · 24-10-2021 1:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117977934#Comment_117977934

It is completely ott.

It went completely woke last season.

It has gone downhill alot

EoinMcLovin · 02-11-2021 12:56am

https://tvline.com/2021/11/01/the-rookie-jenna-dewan-series-regular-season-4-abc/

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EoinMcLovin · 02-11-2021 11:22pm

https://tvline.com/2021/11/02/the-rookie-cast-tim-sister-peyton-list-father-james-remar/

The Rookie Casts Peyton List as Tim's Sister, James Remar as Their Father

beertons · 08-11-2021 1:30am

His step brother was hilarious.

Mr E · 08-11-2021 1:23pm

Great episode this week. Loved the end of watch scene.

EoinMcLovin · 08-11-2021 2:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118135883#Comment_118135883

Yeah regarding the ending

I'm guessing the fire chief is not the arsonist but was framed by the neighbour.

Agent Coulson · 08-11-2021 7:25pm

A that was a fun episode.

On a side note Jackson had is first gig on another show last week turning up in Hawaii as a guest star on NCIS Hawaii.

beertons · 09-11-2021 3:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118136179#Comment_118136179

I said that straight away.

beertons · 09-11-2021 3:04pm

Delighted for the old guy, what a way to go out.

California Dreamer · 09-11-2021 4:55pm

Ah sure just a little trip from Santa Clarita to Burbank for Peter Onorati following his role as Mumford in SWAT.

Agent Coulson · 09-11-2021 5:59pm

Also Tim was the real real winner of the treasure hunt.

Tom Mann Centuria · 09-11-2021 6:02pm

Catching up on a few episodes, nice to see a couple of Bones regulars, if only briefly, in a decent Halloween episode. Not particularly convinced by Nolan's firefighter girlfriend, a bit meh. Gang leader with lawyer storylines is a bit crap, but saying all that the series so far is turning out better than I feared after the awful first episode.

EoinMcLovin · 15-11-2021 1:48pm

That was a great episode

Mr E · 15-11-2021 5:01pm

Yeah that whole warehouse sequence was amazing.

Agent Coulson · 15-11-2021 5:28pm

Really good episode, I just kind of wish the drew it out a bit longer maybe for another couple of episodes as I think they could have done more with it.

However I guess they will be going with the ending as there long term story.

Clareman · 10-12-2021 12:23pm

That episode really wrecked my head, looks to me that it was affected by COVID restrictions so they limited to 2 or 3 people max together, but it was clear that it wasn't the actual actor who's shoulder you were supposed to be looking over, the use of body cams and CCTV made it worse.

Agent Coulson · 10-01-2022 9:22pm

Well the ex husband storyline ended as quickly as it started that was something that could of ran for half a season in the background.

adaminho · 10-01-2022 11:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451873#Comment_118451873

Yeah everything seems to be wrapped up fairly sharply this season. Was nice to see Lainey make an appearance. Was funny as I was re-watching Castle recently and a young Jackson was in it as a victims son.

Mollyb60 · 11-01-2022 9:24am

Obvious new love interest for Lucy is obvious.

Mc Love · 11-01-2022 10:04am

Like others, they could drag some of the stories a bit longer, they wrapped up the ex-husband bit waaaay too quickly

Clareman · 11-01-2022 2:48pm

Wow so they blow through a serial killer and ex-husband in 4 episodes, way to create a bit of a story arc. The whole "having a difficult decision" thing is getting very tiresome at this stage "I'll have to decide between my career and the woman I love", bit on the nose.

EoinMcLovin · 08-02-2022 8:56pm

https://tvline.com/2022/02/08/the-rookie-spinoff-pilot-niecy-nash-fbi-agent/

The Rookie Sets Backdoor Spinoff Pilot With Niecy Nash as Newbie FBI Agent

Mc Love · 10-02-2022 12:48pm

Hmm not so sure, but will wait and see what its like first

10-02-2022 2:37pm

I am running out of patience, with this show.

Unarmoured cops leaving a tactical team, downstairs, while they fistfight with the armed bad guys.

Flying through serial killer story lines and stalker.

Nolan is engaged after, like, 3 weeks. His aim of detective is dead so all of a sudden he is a minor political player in the union.

It's, currently, all over the place and really looks like they don't know where they are going

EoinMcLovin · 10-02-2022 3:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118610515#Comment_118610515

Last season he got told he could never become a detective since he got a letter of reprimand after the whole dirty cop fiasco. He decided to become a Training Officer instead and was going to night school. Didn't see him make any progress as TO this season at all. So yeah definitely agree that story is all over the place

donegal_man · 13-02-2022 2:37pm

Just watched series 4 episode 1. In the long history of silly cop shows it was without doubt the silliest I've seen. Really disappointed.

ixoy · 13-02-2022 7:03pm

You mean rookie cops don't generally go on covert op missions to drug lords in foreign territory?

California Dreamer · 15-02-2022 8:13am

I really loved this at the beginning but as others have said it really has lost its way. At what point does it stop being 'the rookie' and just a regular cop show? Some of the plot lines are absurd!

Clareman · 15-02-2022 10:26am

This has jumped the shark big time, they are just doing a baddie of the week show now, stuff like the arsonist and the serial killer could have gone on for ages but they burnt through it. It's 1 of the shows I'll have on in the background while doing other stuff and if I miss anything I won't bother going back.

is_that_so · 15-03-2022 9:29am

So they did yet another true crime episode - very much love or hate. I passed.

Clareman · 15-03-2022 10:20am

Some of these episodes are clearly recorded when all the actors couldn't be together and they throw the continunity completely out, very annoying in my opinion.

15-03-2022 11:47am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118786791#Comment_118786791

It was their better one

California Dreamer · 15-03-2022 2:45pm

After the brilliant episode last week they come out with this tripe!

Its like they want the show cancelled!

California Dreamer · 30-03-2022 8:12pm

Renewed for Season 5

http://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1509245084260208642

30-03-2022 10:04pm

How?

EoinMcLovin · 20-04-2022 8:26pm

Yeah shows on streaming services have really spoiled us with no breaks in between episodes. The Cw is notorious too for doing large breaks in between episodes and then coming back for another episode two and then another break after that. This season of New Amsterdam went on month long break in December, had 4 episodes in January, took another few weeks off, came back for one episode and then took another month and a half off again.

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The Rookie - US-Pace- ABC (Spoilers)