Anti-British Xenophobia and Hatred in Ireland

I said dislike not hate. So I dunno why you are asking me.

The only bizarre thing is your assessment of this forum. 'People are focussed more on what happens in Britain'? Really?

People express themselves. Nobody is obsessing. There are dislikeable things about all peoples, Irish, English, Scottish etc etc.

Over sensitivity sees threads like these pop up.

Well do show me how often this 'obsessive' has posted on the thread you claim Irish obsessives are 'focussed' on?

I mean, why is it that a thread about British politics gets far more posts on here than a thread about Irish politics? people here are far more interested in overcrowding at a hospital in Liverpool than they in Limerick. 

I think you just proved my point about over sensitivity with that comment and the complete self centred assessment of what happens on this forum.

there will always be arseholes in society unfortunately

There is no "confusion". It's just strategic whinging in the victimisation Olympics. The OP is just the English version of the "you hate America cos you criticised us" nonsense. Seriously, crying because someone called Boris Johnson a "prick".

HAHAHA fkn' 'ell.

Poor mouth OP's like this deserve all the contempt that they get.

I find your obsessive persecution complex perplexing. Just a quick glance at the top threads on page one of this forum there are 10 threads related to Irish politics and many are on their second or third iteration so your claim that people talk more about British politics holds absolutely no water.

What also perplexes me is how you still are surprised people in Ireland take an interest in British politics as even post Brexit we are inexorably linked thanks to our land border with them, proximity, culture and history. Why wouldn't we be interested in such a large, significant neighbor that in recent years has consistently acted in bad faith and made multiple attempts both indirectly and directly by their perfidious actions to negatively affect our day to day lives? Thankfully they have mostly been unsuccessful but your suggestion that we pretty much ignore them is baffling to be honest.

What are we not good at taking exactly? You claimed we talk way more about Britain and its politics than we do about Irish issues and its politics that's patently untrue from even a cursory glance at the top 30 threads in this forum alone.

If anything you seem to be the one who cannot take it as you cry foul at any tiny criticism of Britain and whinge that we don't complain about Ireland enough.

From my point of view its pretty obsessive by the way as its far from the first time youve done this. You did it in the covid UK thread multiple times and im certain ive seen you make the same complaint in the Politics forum as well, not to mention the many times you've undoubtedly made the same distraction argument the same thing in threads in current affairs.

Because lets be real here thats all it is an attempt at distracting and whataboutery based on your own bias that Britain can do know wrong or at least far less wrong than those who view things from a different side of history and politics will ever agree with you on.

Odd thing I have noticed over the years is that there is a lot of anti britishness online like on journal.ie comments section for example, but rarely see it out in the open.

Keyboard warriors eh!

I have been in a few local Irish pub cheering England on, not a bad word said against me. I suppose people have different experiences.

I watched all of them and yes, some English fans are true dickheads.

That isn't in any way relevant to anything I said though. I can't see how you think it is.

Cultural memory is a thing. When a particular nationality/race/ethnicity/etc has been the subject of a sudden massive trauma, or longstanding abuse, these become ingrained into the cultural norms of that group, and get passed down between generations. Not intentionally, it's just a cultural thing.

Distrust of the British - and the English in particular - is one of these cultural memories, and it's only in relatively recent times there has been any reason that people might question it. Certainly our parents and grandparents lived in a time when Irish people were poorly treated by the British.

Even in more contemporary times, the treatment of catholics in Northern Ireland (which was both encouraged and financially supported by England) was in effect an attack on "cultural" Irish North and South. So this stuff is not ancient history, it's in living memory. People in the Republic were horrified by what was going on in the North, but there was considerable sympathy, if not understanding for why the IRA were doing what they were doing.

There is a bit of work to be done on the Irish side in understanding that we don't get to exclude Unionists from the definition of "Irish". Protestants and others on the unionist side may be something of a distinct sub-culture, but they're still Irish even if they do put their toaster in the press.

But for the most part, this distrust is aimed at British institutions moreso than British people. Cultural memory tells us that Westminster looks out for English interests only, in the main, that British institutions will put Britain and the crown before everything else. It also tells us that British politicians absolutely cannot be trusted in the promises they make to non-British entities, and if you're not English, you'll get stabbed in the back if necessary to further English interests.

One could say that these cultural biases should be challenged often. But the last decade has proven to us in many many ways, that this negative portrayal of British institutions is as valid and accurate now as it was 150 years ago.