Hogging a chargepoint

Saw it in Limerick the other day, a BEV parked at a charge point, not plugged in... Meaning no overstay charge for him/her either

This is true, realistically you should be aiming to top up when you reach about 30-35% on a 30kWh leaf so you know you'll be able to make it to the next fast charger

If plugged in and not charging, then yes.

Edit: reading up on Harley's since. Never knew they've been called hogs

Should have put the petrol nozzle leaning into the Chademo port for bonus troll points!

There was an Audi waiting for him to move, so I'll give him bonus points for that 😁

They seemed to leave together and there was plenty of room for the Audi to go around, so perhaps they were travelling together

Saw this beut of a 212 e-tron down in Kilcullen occupying 1 of the 3 spaces last week.... checked the app and all chargers were working fine.

Is this hogging, or ICE'ing? (what's the term for an EV blocking the space? BEV'ing?)

This is where I think a 'minimum vend' would work at FCP's... say 15kWh or 20kWh... a figure that would be very difficult for PHEV's to take... or else just apply the 45 minute limit to the AC as well, and get medieval with it, ala Tesla... €1 per minute until you unplug.

The term is dickhead.

we clearly need to flood the country with charge points, some hogging certainly is arsehole behavior, but sometimes, people actually dont have other options, its either do it, or have no power

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He's paying the charge, Where's your issue.

Can't demand more chargers then throw a fit when people use them.

Because its a FCP/High Speed Chargers are being ridiculously underutilized by someone that doesnt really need it. Then you have people that need to use them waiting on them. Seen one of them pull out their 3 pin cable trying to plug it in at a FCP before. The ignorance of these people is limitless.

PHEV's shouldnt be allowed on them, most dont even know that they only have 3.7kW charger and need 4 hours to charge it. Whats 45 mins max @ 3.7 really going to save them vs a BEV that has no choice but to wait for these fools?

Confiscated and Crushed!

I was at Killashee hotel 2 weekends ago.

2 Easygo chargers provided and was able to draw 11kW into the car. Great to see and worked perfectly. There are also 2 3 pin sockets below the Easygo chargers.

There was a Tesla on the other side of the charger - it was plugged into the 3 pin socket, left there from Saturday afternoon at 3pm until Sunday afternoon 2pm. Is this considered hogging or just being clever?

Access to more chargers has to be the way forward, agree 6x7kW is better for all.

Somebody doing a daily commute to Dublin park at the red cow or a train station somewhere and charge up over 7-9 hours on a 7kW charger...

Would make a lot of people switch to electric very very fast

The problem I have seen with Phev's is that there are many who don't install a home charge point and then utilise destination or even rapids. A phev without a home charger is a wrong use case.

"Entitled"...

Worst word in the English language at times.

Cyclists - but we're entitled to drive in the middle of the lane 4 abreast.

PHEVs - but we're entitled to charge at 3kW on a 50kW charger.

Entitled to do something doesn't mean you should do it.

The typical phev might only have 30 miles ev range so there there is reasoning in wanting to stick it on charge on the street.

You might say it will only get about 10 miles out of 45 mins on charge but that could be €2.50 if done on petrol driving home.

I don't blame anyone who say pops in for dinner, tops up on electricity and drives home.

I don't have a phev but will be getting one.

What the story currently. Is it still free to use the slow chargers?

not to mention that 4 abreast is illegal

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/si/182/made/en/print#article47

We got rid of our L24 because trips around the country over the last 2 summers have been so frustrating with the charging network. We got an Ioniq PHEV a month ago and to be honest I just wouldn't bother using a public charging point with it. It gets plugged in overnight in the driveway and that sorts us for most of the driving the following day. The longer journeys have been covered with the ICE that's it. If I drive down the country for a day trip I'm not going to look for a charger just to charge the car while I wander around town, the reason that we got a PHEV was to get away from all of that.

ESB standard chargers are not free to use anymore. Currently per 26.8c/kWh on the PAYG tariff.

https://esb.ie/ecars/price-plans/pay-as-you-go

so a gen 1 leaf cant use a public charger then if its chadmo is broken?

what about the rav4 phev with 18 kwh battery?

what about the bmw x5 phev, 24kwh battery in that.

what about somone that need to have a short 9kwh charge to get home?

you cant demand a better charging infrastructure, then complane when people use it, demand more chargers.

There was a charger at red cow hotel. Has not worked in years. There was a charger at red cow Luas, removed as not working.

Ionity has car parked sensors in each of their bays in Ireland so they can tell if charge point is blocked. They really need a barrier in Cashel as it's regularly blocked.

We really need a tow away system for all charge points. and as said 6 or more charge points on each AC outlet in public. There was tow away/clamping in Blancharstown, which they stopped after complaints. Probably busiest charge point in the country. Clonshaugh has clamping or tow away. I would not expect massive queues as there are other alternative chargers in range, but I have often seen one car queueing and more probably go elsewhere. I have my common public chargers set up as favourites on the ESB app and I skip charge points that are in use, particularly if the charge started recently, so while you may not see a queue, a busy charger causes people to divert. I tend not to queue, unless I am on 'fumes'

Never heard the term "Grazing" before

Why is there a minimum charge?

The Evolve public network was installed in 2013 and as EVs have become more popular we have received numerous complaints from EV drivers who cannot access charge points due to ‘grazing’. Grazing occurs when an EV driver has a full battery but leaves their car on the charger, blocking others who may need a charge. The minimum charge is intended to encourage only those drivers who need a significant charge to connect. The minimum charge also contributes to fixed costs associated with charging sessions, such as credit card and partner fees.

Some will reduce their cars charging speed if the battery is low.