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La Palma, Canary Islands - Volcano Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Hard to know exactly, but that looks violent now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Someone should tell LIGO that they could have saved all that money on their interferometers when watching smoke from a volcano would have won them that nobel prize all the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭highdef


    It's just clouds doing regular cloud things. The only reason you are thinking of something like gravity waves is because the video has been sped up by a factor of lots so movement is exaggerated



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    well i just had an interesting half hour travelling from our atmosphere to outer space and back again..lol




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,475 ✭✭✭thomil


    First time I'm seeing all of that during daylight. When did the wind pick up like that? Wouldn't want to be downwind of that stuff...

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,715 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Light smoke rising from spots to the left of the main dome in the TelevisionCanaria feed.


    Can't see it being underlying trees or other combustable material at this stage.

    Could it be another vent just before the dome collapses?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Aviation SIGMET has the ash cloud up to 12,000 ft and moving southwestwards at 30 knots.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Good ash cloud going southwest away from islands/nw african coast and out to sea...for people/wildlife. Gives them a break.

    I have been wondering about that left shoulder smoke all day...been trying to find the live feed that pops up on the upper right small box of the main feed that shows the volcano from behind. Has anyone come across it... it might just be low lying cloud or from cinder blocks rolling down and coming to rest there or one of the older or a newer vent. On a mobile so definition not great here of live feed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Second/top vent now flaming again along with bigger lower one.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Here's the live feed of the lava stream entering the sea.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,475 ✭✭✭thomil


    The uppermost vent looks seriously aggressive now. Lava and flames being shot out constantly and at high speeds...

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Is that one long vent from the smaller lower vent? Looks like its spewing lava along that line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Destroyed houses have jumped by nearly 200 since I last looked (around 8 tonight)

    The whole feed is a red glow at the moment.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Still going strong...I wish they would zoom in bottom left clearly to see of smoke there is rubble or vents.Or somebody release info one way or the other.

    ok 8.28am...time on the feed of my last post is the closest view...what does anyone think...4 areas of smoke....not clouds so smoking rubble or vents or both?

    Post edited by speckle on


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    I am not seeing live feed working this morning? Have you link?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    my second last post says live la palma/afar tv top left of box ^^^^^^



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    It was still going strong at 7:15 this morning. Just peeked in now and gone very quiet just white smoke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Wind calmer today. Ash smoke/column is more or less vertical.

    Hard to get a good view this morning with the angle of the sun.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    It is amazing how fast the change 8.45 buzy ..an a half hour later quieter!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    I just realized I read your post wrong 😅 I thought you were saying it was quiet at 8:45 so I was making the point it has only just quietened down , hence I gave the 7:15 update.

    But yeah it is amazing but I wouldn't trust it, calm before the storm n all that!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    A lot of deep rumbling the last while , still can’t see much as wind isn’t shifting the ash and steam.

    A lot of steam/ smoke coming from base on left hand side unsure if that is new vents or just cloud.. I take it if they are new vents forming it would seriously destabilise the whole structure?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    May have been asked earlier in the thread but is this the volcano that’ll create (supposedly) a giant tidal wave that’ll hit NY ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    Yes but seemingly little or no chance of this eruption causing the massive landslide needed to cause that kind of wave.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    latest translated at 1.28pm today

    The explosive activity of the Cumbre Vieja volcano, on La Palma, has increased again in recent hours, as well as the emission of gases in the northern part, the National Geographic Institute confirmed this Thursday. The lava has reclaimed around 17.2 hectares from the sea, estimates the Cabildo de La Palma, and on its way to the ocean it has destroyed 855 buildings and partially damaged 126 others. The destroyed roads total 27.4 kilometers, according to the latest measurement by Copernicus, the European Union's Earth Observation Program. This Thursday, residents will be able to temporarily return to their homes to collect belongings, always outside the exclusion perimeter of 2.5 kilometers. The farmers of Puerto Naos, El Remo and Las Hoyas are also allowed to visit their farms for irrigation tasks. The intense winds that will blow in the Canary archipelago for the next two days will disperse the volcano's emissions towards the Atlantic Ocean and guarantee air quality in populated areas, reports the State Meteorological Agency (Aemet).

    Bold emphasis mine..would this possibly reflect what we see in lower left as we watch live streams of cone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭TTTT




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Sad for the inhabitants...no sound a good but errie choice.....Excellant footage..though not sure the footwear at the end is the most apprioprate for such conditions 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Some of those houses had a real "lucky escape" I know they are not out of the woods yet. But you'd wonder what access will be like. How high the lava is around the house, how stable it is if you started digging an access route etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,702 ✭✭✭obi604


    Silly Q time, so the lava reaches the sea and the sea I guess is relatively shallow where it enters, some lava will just go uner water but the rest then will just form new land, yeah?

    I guess also that the sea could be really deep also where lava enters and if so, the lava would just go to bottom of seabed and take longer to build any new land

    Is this kinda what happens?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Activity has started back up, looks like more lava making it's way to the sea.

    @obi604 not sure but I did read that the heat from the lava can cause water temperatures to rise to scalding levels.

    My understanding is the lava will harden and form new land, not sure how stable it is though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭brianwalshcork


    42 acres of new land so far:

    Overlaid over Dubin streets - that looks like:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    But how stable is it?

    Would you be able to build on it?

    I wouldn't have thought fresh lava land deposits would be structurally sound. So while it's new land it may not be of "value"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭brianwalshcork


    No idea how stable it is...


    I read somewhere that the La Bombilla area highlighted in yellow was new land formed in a similar way, but I can't find the link at the moment.


    (lava from the current eruption is entering in the area highlighted in red)





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    Current lava flow the bit in middle is a large hill that the lava is snaking around on the way to the sea . The very top branch of the flow is kind of a worry because that heads into a fairly heavily populated area with a lot of houses and a lot of agricultural land . The hope would be it turns down towards sea and not continue towards Tazacorte



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,702 ✭✭✭obi604


    good pic.

    ah yes, you can see the snaky track the lava took in the darker colour to form the new Bombilla land - and it seems to be a fair whack of land too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Lava from the side vent appears to be finding a new path atm to the left of the current channel as we see it. First sign of change there for a couple of days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Where you watching this ? I’ve lost the video



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog



    Here you can see part of the lava flow in the last half hour now in to a new channel to the left of where it was atm,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Hard to tell whether that new channel is just overflow from inundation of lava in the existing channel but could be very significant downstream and may put more properties at risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    New vent just opened right on top of side vent. Lava emerging and completely different direction of travel. Let's how that evolves.


    Present lava vent appears to be putting a lid on itself which may mean extra pressure in other spots for lava to emerge.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    1 hour ago translated

    The Cumbre Vieja volcano, on the island of La Palma, not only maintains the same fierceness after the arrival of the lava into the sea, but in the last hours it has increased its explosiveness and the ash fall, as confirmed by sources from the Institute. National Geographic (IGN). They warn that explosions are being generated on the north slope of the main cone. This new situation could cause collapses in the cone in the short term, something that enters into the forecasts of the scientists displaced to the island. In this sense, the volcanologist from the National Geographic Institute María José Blanco explained this Thursday at a press conference that the morphology of the cone "has changed and may continue to change."

    https://elpais.com/espana/2021-09-30/ultimas-noticias-del-volcan-en-erupcion-en-la-palma-en-directo-la-ultima-hora-de-cumbre-vieja-en-canarias.html

    Kermit re new lava streams outlets...lets hope they join back up with the earlier ones downhill before it hits what's left of the town

    25% of the houses lost... happened in the last 24 hours :(



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    New vent opening now. This could be bad depending on where the lava goes. It looks bad in general. Multiple vents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Indeed. See that now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Serious pressure coming out of that main vent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Lava out of latest vent becoming less viscous.


    Probably see a new fountain there imminently?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Looks like the engine is coming to rest again.

    Post edited by Kermit.de.frog on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    A potential entire new opening has just emerged far away from existing activity. It's the bottom left hand corner here...serious development potentially.


    Edit: Big plumes of smoke emerging there and the glow suggest there is lava at the surface. A second opening down there now. Oh dear.

    Post edited by Kermit.de.frog on


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    not looking good...big balls of lava rock now also being spit out further to right. Possibly undermining of a big chunk? hope it stabilizes and stays put til tommorrow/daylight.... smoke coming from 2 places either side of that new lava stream at bittom of screen from earlier. Dogs were barking loudly earlier tonight...they seem to sense things there. More people allowed collect stuff yesterday..hopefully the areas this might effect. hopefully air still ok for areas asked to stay inside. fingers x'd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    whooah large fountain expolsion from top vent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,022 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




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