Sarah Everard Murder - Serving Met Officer Arrested *Mod Note in OP*

nobody can predict if he's dead after 10 years or not.

and:'he's going to have to go into solitary for his own safety'.. what's that for a statement? So now this scumbag can even chose what he wants to do in prison? Wouldn't it be good if Sarah could have chosen to go into solitary for her own safety when in his hands?

Seriously, can someone with real knowledge of how the british justice system works clarify if he will definetely be put into his own cell/being highly protected from other prison mates from day one? would be a disgrace in my opinion, many 'not former police employees' in prison are getting daily hell too and are constantly in fear for their lives I guess.

Hang on there. What you are asking for is revenge, not justice. Revenge is not what the prison system is there for. He got a life sentence and will never be released again, so he is effectively locked up as he is deemed a danger to society. He is not locked up to be tormented and injured by inmates on a daily basis.

Do you really think other prisoners should get longer prison time just so can feel satisfied that he suffers enough? And the prison management and staff should also accept to be torn to pieces for being unable to manage their prison, and ensure personal safety of their inmates?

Is that what you want? Right after expertly blaming psychopathy again? Ironic

He'll go into a special part of the prison for prisoners at high risk from others. This is almost exclusively used for paedos, but there will be a few other special cases like this guy.

He'll spend 23 hours a day in his cell, meals delivered to him, etc., and get an hour a day exercise in the yard with only the paedos. Even then he's not safe from the guards who won't treat him nicely.

After a decade or so and he's mostly forgotten they might consider moving him into general population.

The police in the UK have a serious issue with how they handle sexual misconduct by it's officers

Fvkcin hell, talk about tone deaf. "Women: If you're not comfortable with the arresting officer, feel free to add resisting arrest to your charge and be treated like a lunatic".

It goes to show the value that police forces could get out of having a completely independent body to advise on their procedures. The above sounds reasonable if you're a decent cop telling people what to do, but in the real world it's nonsense.

How about changing the arrest laws so that an officer on their own can carry out an arrest, but when moving a person (under arrest or not), they must always be escorted by at least two police officers. Then publicise the living sh1t out of this requirement so that the next Sarah Everard might be able to refuse to get into the car.

he had two hours to do what he wanted while they waited outside. 2 hours.

@taxiperson wrote:

Hubris always catches up with these people eventually. We're conditioned by TV to believe that when cops commit crimes, they are meticulous about forensics and covering all their bases. The reality is that they know the overall weaknesses in the system and they have the ability to alter evidence after the fact, to deal with the unforeseen. So they can often be a lot sloppier than your average Joe who has to be paranoid that they've thought of everything.

I recall there were early suggestions that he might have suffered some kind of mental breakdown, tumour, etc, that caused a personality shift, hence why flashing in February escalated to a badly-planned rape and murder in April. It turns out that he'd been under suspicion of several other "minor" sexual complaints for years, to the point that now they're wondering if he can be implicated in other serious crimes.

It's extremely worrying that if someone was investigated for flashing in public and/or other sexual complaints, they would very likely fail any background check run by the cops and they'd be excluded from working with children or other vulnerable people. But if those cops doing the background check had the same complaints against them, they'd be permitted to continue working indefinitely.

Officers apologise for photos of Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry | Harrow Times

These officers sent pictures into a WhatsApp group, surely they knew that 1. It was wrong and 2. They were going to be found out. Still didn't stop them 🤨

It's a issue with defence forces worldwide, especially with strong hierarchical structures. There's a strong us -v- them culture. Which is kind of understandable.

But it creates these problems, where any member who reports a colleague cannot be trusted to be "us". You will be locked out and harassed. Therefore nobody wants to be the member of the force on the outside, the one who reports their colleagues. Look at Maurice McCabe and the hell he had to endure just for daring to report obvious corruption in the force.

Over the years everyone collects a little bit of baggage, mistakes they've made, boundaries they've overstepped. So the longer someone has been in the force, the more dirt their colleagues have on them, the more that can be used against you. This keeps everyone in line. New recruits find out in no uncertain terms that you keep your mouth shut if you want to progress. And by the time you have the confidence and authority to feel ready to report your colleagues, you have your own skeletons that you know are going to be maliciously used against you in return.

The Guilford Four

The Maguire Seven

The Birmingham Six

The RUC/PSNI.

I will differ with you there. I've not time for the UK police. Corrupt and rotten to the core and, part of the occupying crown forces.

What is it with you and your obsession to identify people as psychopaths? No self-respecting professional would put forward such a diagnosis without proper research, yet you feel qualified to do so because you read a few books. And don't get me started on the half-truths and generalisations that are contained in your posts...

I d wager red flags like couzens go more unreported than not, god only know's how many of these red flags are ignored in general, police forces by nature are very tribal, they'll protect their own and try to defend the image of the force.

Just look at the link you posted, at a time when we should be mourning, focusing on police violence and violence against women and the failings of a police force... he can't help but try and victim blame in order to shift the blame away from his own.

Scary.

Good point made in response to the Met police's advice to ring 999.

Where do women go from here? Why are we not allowed to feel safe anymore? it is 2021.

The MET released a very idiotic comment that if women don't feel safe with an officer, they should flag down a bus!!

Wayne Couzens was bringing prostitutes to work parties in full knowledge of his colleagues. They had his registration number and knew his name off the back of the McDonalds incidents... They are fully to blame for this atrocious incident. He was one of them and they are the ones who at the end of the day had all the pieces laid out before them.