Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

RTE reporting on CSO figures and our Finance Minister talking about same.

That said, things could be worse compared to others but it's a shame the Government lost the plot lockdown wise, spending has been nuts.

A bit more common sense regarding lockdowns would have been lovely. But this is old ground and looking forward to the 22nd for full reopening. Let's hope the government don't **** the bed before Christmas and beyond.

What are you on about now ? Are you so eager to dig up old articles to push your doom and gloom that you jump on them without even reading the first?

Both links you posted are for Q2 2020,We are now in Q4 2021, 6 Quarters later.

I See you are now attempting to cast doubt on Davy`s forecast for 2021. Do you also doubt Bloomberg`s GDP growth for 2020 of 3.4% or the Dept of Finance figure of 15.6% growth for 2022.? If you are can you explain how you you see it growing from 3.4% January 2021 to 15.6% for 2022 without there being a significant increase for 2021?

You are the typical hurler on the ditch. Moaning about everything without a single answer for anything. You are on here attempting to spread your usual doom and gloom, this time on the economy, yet when asked in numerous posts for just one example of any country whose economy performed better, not a cheep from you. The simple facts are we outperformed every country in the E.U. (plus our nearest neighbour by a wide margin), during this pandemic, even having Brexit thrown into to mix, and are continuing to do so. But you are so tied up in your doom and gloom world of Ireland being the worstest in the world you cannot bring yourself to admit it.

If I have got you wrong, then show me as I have repeatedly asked you a country that has performed better economically that you believe we should have copied. If not then you are nothing other than a typical moaner that never had an answer to anything in this pandemic and is now resorting to dragging through history to caste doubts on an economy that is going strong despite all you dour predictions.

What usual doom and gloom am I spreading?

Someone said there was no recession in Ireland during the pandemic.

I said there was a backed it up, your going on and on like a moaning old woman as to figures that have been quoted both in q1 of last year and this year.

I didn't say once there were countries that did better unless you can quote where I did? If you can't then get over it and move on.

Did I say Ireland's economy is in the shitter? No but I can't believe you're absent minded to think that we won't need to pay back what was borrowed during all of this.

I sincerely hope the economy grows stronger and stronger but I really don't believe the economy will grow by 15% next year.. maybe I'll be wrong and I hope so.

But you go on and on and on, spreading God knows what even as you're just a pain to even try to have a debate with.

Are you so eager to post how amazing things are to continue your tinted roses outlook on everything? If yes then God love ya, must be easy being you.

I would much rather have at least a semi-positive outlook than be a constant moaner that criticises everything yet has no credible alternative when asked on anything.

NPHET knows best don't be dissiming there advice . Could be VARIANTS OF CONCERN out there yet to be discovered

Yeah its a load of BS what us Irish people are going through

Right, can't see how or where I've criticized everything but I'm going to just leave it there. I answered what I could, just arguing the toss with someone like you just makes it pointless.

Look, you didn't answer my questions either.

I answered a post which said there was no recession in Ireland by showing that we did indeed enter a recession and numerous sources were provided to back that up. You countered this with pointless arguments that we are doing great and seemed absolutely adamant that the links I provided are not valid and began screaming about Davy and Bloomberg.

I can't be bothered with this anymore, the thread has been clogged up with it, you don't want to accept Ireland entered a recession and that's your prerogative.

I choose to believe what I'm reading about it in the same way I don't believe wearing masks over and over does us any good - and moreso when we wear the same mask non stop.

We had one of the continents longest lockdowns, maybe we should have exited the whole thing much earlier and had a much quicker recovery instead of caution here and caution there which in itself has caused its own untold misery and problems whereas other countries opened up.

Good luck to you but with this particular topic I'm done.

You are arguing around the same thing. There was a recession. Now there's not. Sin é.

Are we all getting tourism vouchers ?

I presume you are refering to me. If so the only reason I even engaged is because there is enough pointless whinging here from the usual suspects without going back to Q2 2020 moaning about an economy that is outperforming the rest of Europe, is predicted to continue to do so, and was even doing so for Q2 2020.

Yeah you could be onto something,maybe its a conspiracy!

Why is it questionable?

We entered it as per the definition and then exited it in q4 and we've had positive growth ever since.

Let's just hope this stays on the right path and all those that lost their jobs get them back.

The confusion stems from various figures from the CSO:

Needless to say year on year growth was 2.47%, the only EU/Western economy to have growth for 2020.