2021 NFL season - Week 4 thread

Foxtrol · 04-10-2021 12:42am

Those half and half Patriots/Bucs Brady jerseys are one of the cringiest things I've ever seen.

Wonder how much the weather will impact Brady and Bucs, presumably plays into the type of game the Patriots want.

Brady looked a bit overhyped on that first drive - see if he calms down as we'd expect with his pedigree.

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 12:52am

Tight, low scoring affair so far. I just have a feeling it won't stay like that.

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 12:57am

Well that int isn't on Mac Jones, just brilliant defensive play.

el Fenomeno · 04-10-2021 1:22am

That's a fantastic drive by Mac. Spotty offensive line play, pressure in his face more often than not, but what a drive.

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 1:23am

That was brilliant work by Mac Jones. He led them all the way down the field and overcame two holding penalties to get us in the end zone.

7-3 Patriots.

Xavi6 · 04-10-2021 1:41am

Nice to see the Chiefs offense back in form earlier, albeit against a pretty bad D.

Intriguing SNF game at the moment, Pats doing well on both sides of the ball.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 04-10-2021 1:57am

good game so far. I got my wish, not a blowout (so far). I loved the low scoring rams pats superbowl

Xavi6 · 04-10-2021 2:11am

The Bucs are really missing Gronk.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-10-2021 2:49am

Refs throwing ridiculous flags all game.

Xavi6 · 04-10-2021 2:51am

That's a hell of a drive from Mac Jones, sets up this last quarter very nicely.

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 2:52am

Another phenomenal drive by Mac Jones. Patriots back in front 14-13.

Xavi6 · 04-10-2021 2:59am

Steve Belichick looks like he's had a few pregame lines 😁

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1444859781211119616?s=20

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 3:10am

Yeah young Belichick is gonna be on plenty of GIFs if he keeps making faces. 😁

Bucs back on top with field goal to take a two point lead. We need Mac to do it again now. This has certainly been his coming out party. Hopefully it continues.

It's been a great game of ball.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 04-10-2021 3:15am

this is why I stayed up. the tension is unreal so it is

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-10-2021 3:15am

2 possessions left in this game yet, albeit the if the Buccs score the Pats will likely have less than 2 mins.

el Fenomeno · 04-10-2021 3:16am

So this is how it feels...

el Fenomeno · 04-10-2021 3:18am

Ugh, Henry was wide open with absolutely no one near him on that near interception.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 04-10-2021 3:20am

the refs are kinda screwing the pats. that out of bounds on the return was crazy

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 04-10-2021 3:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117972984#Comment_117972984

any video or image of this? they didn't show much replays

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-10-2021 3:26am

Wasted TO

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-10-2021 3:27am

Stupid play calling given the situation.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 04-10-2021 3:28am

AB should have caught both of those

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 3:29am

Come on Mac, clutch time, go do it!!!

el Fenomeno · 04-10-2021 3:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117972987#Comment_117972987

https://twitter.com/FTBVids_YT/status/1444863944057782276?s=19

Here

Xavi6 · 04-10-2021 3:37am

No good from 56 and that's the game, a good loss for the Pats though if there's such a thing.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-10-2021 3:37am

What a game..

Edit actually: What a dramatic finish. Poor quality game tbf but Mac Jones was very impressive.

el Fenomeno · 04-10-2021 3:37am

Ugh, stupid decision to go for the FG there. Ridiculous call. Cowardly.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 04-10-2021 3:38am

ah crap, we all wanted a final Brady drive

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 3:38am

Well gotta say I'm shocked they decided to go for the field goal there. Sad end to the night.

TB12 now resumes his status as our GOAT.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 04-10-2021 3:42am

First and last time staying up for a regular season game.. Happy I did but christ it's late!

Christy42 · 04-10-2021 8:25am

I would say neither Brady nor Bill will be happy with that. Bill because of the loss. Brady because he is aware Bill stymied him and won the NE defense vs Tampa offense chess match.

As for the field goal. Folk has been good and it was pretty close. That drive was not really working and most of the yardage had come on a lucky pass interference.

collybyrne · 04-10-2021 9:15am

Much closer game than I thought it would be, probably only Bellicheck could have created that many headaches for an offense like the Bucs with those personnel on D. It's one thing the Rams giving them a hard time with Donald and Ramsey, it's a whole other thing doing it purely through coaching and strategy.

Couple of great drives from Mac and loads of promise there for the future, but overall that New England offense is still a long way from being able to compete with the big dogs in the league. Even against a team with virtually no secondary there was no deep threat at all. The O Line has struggled every week, not just against Vea, Suh et al and Mac is taking a beating back there.

I'm still excited to see where the Pats go from here and it's definitely more positive than watching Cams struggles last season, just think Mac and McDaniels are gonna need this season to really figure it out before they're back in the January mix.

Foxtrol · 04-10-2021 6:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117973496#Comment_117973496

Bill did a great job but the Patriot's defense are hardly all poor players - they mightn't have Donald or Ramsey but I'd argue they have several very good guys and what they lack in star power they make up for in solid depth - Judon also looks like a fantastic signing. The weather also clearly played a part, it far more suited the gameplan the Patriots have gone with this season than what the Bucs have been doing - now the argument could be made that they should have adjusted but it isn't easy to pivot drastically. Made the game a mess to watch qualitywise, though it did add to the tension.

Bucs are lucky that their schedule eases up now - their secondary is basically non-existent through all those injuries. They were very lucky last year in that regard so it normally balances out the following one. From what I saw of Sherman last year and last night, he doesn't look like he'll be saving the day.

cosatron · 04-10-2021 6:46pm

Sherman is done. Getting picked on by a rookie isn't a good look

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 7:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117976316#Comment_117976316

You know I could counter argue that the weather helped the Bucs because on a dry night it's much easier to pass the ball and with their secondary issues they'd have been in a lot more trouble.

Just saying, not being very serious.

eagle eye · 04-10-2021 7:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117976378#Comment_117976378

In fairness the guy just arrived in Tampa, he has to learn the system and get up to fill fitness. He's an old guy now so it's going to take him longer to get up to speed.

Foxtrol · 04-10-2021 8:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117976722#Comment_117976722

Glad you're not very serious - to do so you'd have to ignore the extremely low intended air yards of Mac Jones all season (and college) and believe he would suddenly start taking deeper shots at a rate we haven't yet from him, greater than the likely uptick from Brady in their more aggressive system (even after last night Brady's average intended air yards per play is 8.9 and Jones' is 7.4).

eagle eye · 05-10-2021 12:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117977055#Comment_117977055

Funny you mention Brady. Many times it was said he doesn't have the arm and that's for years while he was in the NFL.

As for Mac Jones, if you don't think he can throw the deep ball.....

https://youtu.be/jjL1cY39bCU

eagle eye · 05-10-2021 12:44am

Great fun tonight, lightning in the area and kick off put back despite the fact it's an indoor stadium.

castletownman · 05-10-2021 2:29am

Must say I am enjoying the multi-faceted offences of both the Chargers and Cardinals so far. Herbert looks the real deal even if he doesn't have the explosiveness on his feet of Murray, Mahomes or Jackson.

Xavi6 · 05-10-2021 3:36am

Another great standalone game, even though the Chargers looked to be out of sight at half time.

That stadium has rocketed up my to visit list in the future.

Itssoeasy · 05-10-2021 6:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117958496#Comment_117958496

10-6 so 35- 29 which a bit better of a record.

paulie21 · 05-10-2021 7:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117960316#Comment_117960316

9-7 takes me to 37-27

eagle eye · 05-10-2021 7:53am

Don't forget Darnold, most rushing TDs in the league so far this season!!!!

Christy42 · 05-10-2021 8:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117958308#Comment_117958308

8-8 leads me to 39-25. Not a good week. I was sure I picked the Buccs over the Pats but I wrote what I wrote. I blame the new site messing up my initial post! (Possibly not a good excuse given I did edit it but whatever).

collybyrne · 05-10-2021 8:46am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117960351#Comment_117960351

10 - 6 takes me to 41 - 23 for the season.

Tough weekend for picks so happy to come out with a winning record. Cards Rams and SNF probably the pick of the weekend but I think a special mention should go to the Ravens for going into Mile High and never looking like they were gonna lose that one. I think that Broncos team are the real deal this year and yes they lost Bridgewater at half-time but the first half didn't look any different to the second.

Seems like there's so many good teams and in particular great QBs in the league at the minute. All 3 of Murray, Herbert, Jackson are getting close to Mahomes levels of awesomeness this year. with Josh Allen looking just as good as he did last year too. When you think of the potential of this years 1st rounders as well, we could really be looking at a golden decade of quarter back play in the NFL.

Shout out to all the NY fans on here as well, great to see both teams get some good news at last, it's been a tough run for you guys.

ELM327 · 05-10-2021 12:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117972986#Comment_117972986

He ran half the field out of bounds. If you're out of bounds (forced out) you have to rejoin the field of play and cant keep running out of bounds. If you're out of bounds it's an unfair advantage as the opposition can't leave the field to block you.

It was a good call IMO.

Foxtrol · 05-10-2021 1:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117977782#Comment_117977782

The usual strawman from you, I never said Jones can't throw a deep ball.

Now that you have failed to move the discussion to the one you'd like to have, can you point to your evidence of Jones being able to keep up a sustained aggressive shoot out style game plan to the level of Brady in the Bucs system when playing NFL level talent?

Also, to talk about Brady's arm in the same discussion as Mac Jones' is doing Brady a huge disservice.