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No Time to Die **Spoilers from post #1449 onward**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,239 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    They mangled it but I think what Blofeld was referring to as Madeline's "secret" which would be the end of Bond is that she wasn't part of SPECTRE, wasn't involved on the attack on him at Vesper's grave and was pregnant with his child when he abandoned her at the train station. i.e. Bond would be ruined with guilt at his own actions... Or at least that's what I took from it...



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I kind of liked the idea of James bond being a family man and also being a toe rag and seducing younger women. Craig's Bond was just way too nice even when he was seeking revenge. Ana de Armas was alot of fun but every other character was so depressed throughout the movie. The villains plan made no sense, or why anyone would follow him and well the fight at the end was disappointing. Never seen Bond give up at the end of any of his movies. He could also have talked to the little girl a bit more.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,523 ✭✭✭✭Dav010




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Interesting. I guess it could be, though it's not really *her* secret. The implication all along was that she was keeping something back. It would have worked had that conversation with Blofeld happened before Italy. As part of the setting her up.

    But whatever it was, that secret formed a key part of the marketing and then slipped away quietly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭billyhead


    True. He can be cool in one scene and a menacing killer in another. A very versatile actor.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,073 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    What are they going to reset too? If they go back to the traditional trope then it's more of the same, any deviation and it's not a Bond film.





  • The little actors must have received a lot of counselling 😂 although with modern movie making techniques I guess they weren’t too traumatised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I don't know how to put in spoilers but I thought he would speak to her on the phone at the end. He could've had made the effort at that stage 😀



  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes between that “secret” which wasn’t really and Safin”s rational for doing what he was doing reduced down to one sentence- “leaving behind something on earth after he departed”- there was a lot of film on the cutting room floor.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I thought that NTTD was quite good in the end.

    A good bit better than I thought it would be given some reports.

    To my surprise the relationship thing worked, for me anyway.

    Léa Seydoux was much better and much more effective here than in the terrible Spectre.

    NTTD definitely better than both Skyfall and Spectre.

    Echoes of Moonraker for sure.

    Liked the throwback to "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" with the "We have all the time in the world" music - but in reverse meaning here.

    For the villain Safin, it was probably the script more than Malek at fault I would say overall but it didn't ruin the movie.

    Lashana Lynch was fine as 007 excepting her large arse looking a bit out-of-place for an operative in the villain's lair sequence.

    The eschewing of traditional Bond mores of master bird-bedder and the lack of casinos and associated frippery actually worked well also I thought as a modernising effort.

    7.5 / 10



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  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭KurtBarlow


    Henry Cavill is being linked to the role of being the next Bond, For the most part he ticks the right boxes . He's the right age , has the physicality , he's British and he's handsome but maybe he's a bit too handsome LOL. I think he might lack that bit of ruggedness



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shelga




  • Registered Users Posts: 24,239 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    He was actually pretty good in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. but I'd suspect he's probably a little too high-profile for the role at this stage and by the time filming starts on the next Bond he'll be in his 40's... certainly not too old for the role but they might prefer to find someone younger to get a longer run...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cavill is about as gritty as a snooker ball with not far off a similar level of gravitas, charisma and range.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,319 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Michael Fassbender would be my choice, not too much much of a pretty boy but has a glint

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He's 44 now and a bond movie won't be filmed for another couple of years at least and not released until the year after most likely.

    Craig was 38 when CR was released.

    He'd be close to, if not an actual decade older upon the release compared to Craig.

    Fassbender's chance was gone when the producers decided to stick with Craig for the final two movies that he did.

    That's if he would have wanted to do it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,319 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I was thinking that but the 2 most bankable hitmen/super spy actors at the moment are Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise, going back to Sean Connery, he could have 50 in the early films for all the action/fighting he did

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    I think people bemoaning Henry Cavill's lack of charisma have only ever seen him in Snyder stuff. As mentioned he was great as the smooth wisecracker in The Man From Uncle.

    Still, given the probable direction of any new Bond - total reboot, origin tale etc. - a new, younger face is far more likely. It ain't gonna be him, Fassbender or Idris Elba.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I saw "The man from Uncle"

    Still don't think that Cavill would make a good bond.

    Biggest factor is that he doesn't have the gritty edge that is now required and wouldn't be able to fake it well imo.

    But he's definitely more in the running compared to Fassbender and Elba.

    Hardy still has a chance imo, age notwithstanding.

    Some guy called "Rege-Jean Page" ("a man of colour" - is that the acceptable denotation du jour?) who I don't know of because I wouldn't be into that "Brigerton" stuff is apparently in the running also.

    He's 31.

    https://www.oddschecker.com/novelty/specials/tv-specials/next-bond-after-daniel-craig



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Small issue with Fassbender isn't age, it's that he has broadly stopped acting to take up racing. He's in Taika Waititi's latest, but I can't imagine a big blockbuster with long shoots and marketing junkets would be his priority right now. Not if it interferes with a yearly racing schedule.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,319 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    so hear me out, a dastardly plot involving a dirty nuke in a racing car.... , Im not predicting, just who would peak my interest

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fassbender is a "gentleman driver" - e.g. he pays to be on the team as opposed to being paid.

    The class of cars that he's in (LMGTE) would not be the one of the prestigious classes and he's in the second team.

    Apparently he wants to get to race at Le Mans 24 hours and will most likely stop there if he manages it I would say.

    The plan is to do that in June 2022.

    After that he'll be back to acting full time.

    It's being documented in a Netflix series "Michael Fassbender: Road to Le Mans"



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭santana75


    Roger Moore was 48 when live and let die, his first bond outing, was released. Liam neeson was making the Taken films in his 60s. So I wouldnt be counting an actor out based on age.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't see them looking back to the way of the 1970's though in that respect though

    And they are not going for the grandad Bond look a la Neeson so not really relevant.

    Fassbender is a more grizzled-looking 44 than Hardy who is also 44 but who (Hardy) I would see as having a much better chance at the role.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,045 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Another I hear mentioned is Richard Madden. Certainly looks the part but pretty much the same problems as above



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually the Regé-Jean Page guy (current favourite) has possibly a good look for the next Bond

    haven't watched Brigerton but does seem that he could do the requisite "edge" aspect from clips

    and certainly does fit the "modern narrative" but with possibly broad appeal which is key

    https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/rege-jean-page-james-bond



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,045 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Im not advocating for the guy or anything as I have never seen him act but he certainly looks the part in photos. Yes obviously his skin is darker but everything else about his face and frame isn't that different to previous Bonds and probably more like most of them than Craig looked and as a black Bond wouldn't be as jarring as someone like Elba who really looks nothing at all like any previous Bond.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    yes that's why I say "broad appeal" which I would say that his look has.

    "tall, dark(er) and handsome"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,239 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Interesting to go through the other actors people are backing, some utterly mad ones there... Emilia Clarke?! May as well burn your money. Even if they were going to go female, she wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell. Barely even has the acting chops to play a Bond Girl in the Moore era!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭micks_address


    The only way I can see Hardy in the role is if Christopher Nolan takes on directing duties



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