Poor diction by radio presenters

The J Stands for Jay · 16-03-2021 10:23am

blackbox wrote: »

...or having no "thread" on their tyres.

Every post about tyres on motors talks about thread. Confusing until you realise what they're on about.

bureau2009 · 16-03-2021 11:49am

There are no speech standards in RTE.

Can Jennifer Zamperelli speak properly? Ray Darcy and Jenny Greene are no great shakes. I cannot listen to Weekend Breakfast on 2FM because of the standard of speech.

And I am mystified as to how Angela Scanlon ended up on BBC Radio 2.

endofrainbow · 16-03-2021 8:41pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Sorry for dragging up an old thread but hardly worth starting a new one. The affectation by some in the media for pronouncing foreign place names in what they perceive to be the cool way. Sports reporters being amongst the worst - Budapest is regularly pronounced Buddah-pest and while this maybe the way natives pronounce it, when did you last hear a sports reporter refer to Paris as Pari - with a silent s the way French people do? Just a very trivial thing in the overall scheme of things but it's like fingernails down a blackboard to me.

Just heard another 'sportscaster' call it Bur Russia Munchkin Glad back ......

ford fiesta · 16-03-2021 10:32pm

I've noticed for years siobhan madigan on RTE Radio Sport, showing off her prounciations of International sports people, teams and cities.

Cole · 17-03-2021 10:10am

bureau2009 wrote: »

There are no speech standards in RTE.

Can Jennifer Zamperelli speak properly? Ray Darcy and Jenny Greene are no great shakes. I cannot listen to Weekend Breakfast on 2FM because of the standard of speech.

And I am mystified as to how Angela Scanlon ended up on BBC Radio 2.

What's your definition of "speech standards"?

zoobizoo · 17-03-2021 10:24am

Reporters saying "he's" instead of "his".

Usually country ones.

He took "he's" cows to the market...

The rugby commentator on TV3 during the 6 Nations does it all the time.

17-03-2021 10:29am

whiterebel wrote: »

Its nothing to do with accent, its just lazy. How these people can be editors of newspapers and yet butcher the language is beyond me.

We speak Hiberno-English, how are they butchering that language?

Sleeper12 · 17-03-2021 10:34am

I'm sick to death of presenters schoil instead of school

iamwhoiam · 17-03-2021 10:38am

I present Loddie Ryan . !

dirkmeister · 17-03-2021 10:39am

Matt Cooper and his “Ehn- Phet”

shtpEdthePlum · 17-03-2021 10:43am

kneemos wrote: »

God save and protect us from perfect speech. People speak in accordance to where they're from and as long as they're easily understandable all is well.

The real issue is the lack of regional accents on our national broadcasters.

On Raidió na Gaeltachta there are all sorts of accents. They also interview people from lots of different backgrounds and actually seem to want to talk to them. They have a chat and a laugh. They're not rushing them off the air, interrupting them or waiting for them to stop talking so they can say something unpleasant to upscuttle them.

I just started listening in the last while and I'm actually in way better form generally.

17-03-2021 10:45am

Here ya go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiberno-English

mfceiling · 17-03-2021 10:56am

One thing.

If a word ends in "ht" it is not pronounced "th"

This drives me demented.

"Look at height of these ceilings" is not "look at the heigth of these ceilings".

filbert the fox · 17-03-2021 11:30am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Someone should get a grip on Darren Frehill and tell him that ‘played’ is not pronounced ‘pled’.

Don’t get me going on ‘Nooze’ for ‘news’.

Or ‘Awder’ for ‘order’

Grrrrrrrrrrrr

In fairness he simply med a mistake!

Listeners might also be able to hear the words if presenters stopped interrupting guests - guilty as charged:

Joe Duffy
Mary Wilson
Brendan O'Connor
Anyone on "This Week"

This habit is exacerbated by the "oh, I just thought of something and i'm gonna butt in cos i'm the star of the show and i can't be bothered to hear what you're on about..."

ArielAtom · 17-03-2021 11:38am

dirkmeister wrote: »

Matt Cooper and his “Ehn- Phet”

And his Sahurday.

Brendan Bendar · 17-03-2021 2:35pm

ArielAtom wrote: »

And his Sahurday.

Couldn’t listen to the lad.....too high pitched.....like Eamon Ryan...nah

Howitzer the 5th · 17-03-2021 3:43pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Couldn’t listen to the lad.....too high pitched.....like Eamon Ryan...nah

Idd-a-lee for Italy as well. Perplexing. Especially given their fondness for spending chasms of time discussing that egg chasing rubbish.

Sheep Shagger · 17-03-2021 3:45pm

Twidder instead of twitter

Max Headroom · 17-03-2021 6:05pm

These words.....
Courk
Mourning..as in ..good mourning...
Gourgeous
Fourk

Any word that has a "o" followed by an " r".....:mad:

Swopping "dd" for "tt"......Liddle, etc...:mad:

gourcuff · 18-03-2021 3:56pm

its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

A quick list from a reddit thread...

Sarah Mcinerney
Claire Byrne
Oliver Callan
Seán Moncrieff
Ray D’Arcy
John Creedon
John Kelly
Mary Wilson
Colette Browne
Rachael English
Cormac Ó hEadhra
Darren Frehill

Matt Cooper
Ivan Yates
Jonathan Healy
Kieran Cuddihy
Shane Coleman
Andrea Gilligan
Richard Chambers
Siofra Mulqueen

Dara O’Brian
Tommy Tiernan
Damien Lawlor

Nathan Murphy
Joe Molloy

Ciaran Murphy
Billy Joe Padden
Kieran Cunningham
Ger Gilroy
Eoin Sheehan
Colm Parkinson

Michael Lyster
Sean O’Rourke
Mark Tighe
Brendan O’Connor
Aisling Bea
Sharon Horgan

wall to wall culchies out there...

Brendan Bendar · 18-03-2021 4:18pm

gourcuff wrote: »

its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

A quick list from a reddit thread...

Sarah Mcinerney
Claire Byrne
Oliver Callan
Seán Moncrieff
Ray D’Arcy
John Creedon
John Kelly
Mary Wilson
Colette Browne
Rachael English
Cormac Ó hEadhra
Darren Frehill

Matt Cooper
Ivan Yates
Jonathan Healy
Kieran Cuddihy
Shane Coleman
Andrea Gilligan
Richard Chambers
Siofra Mulqueen

Dara O’Brian
Tommy Tiernan
Damien Lawlor

Nathan Murphy
Joe Molloy

Ciaran Murphy
Billy Joe Padden
Kieran Cunningham
Ger Gilroy
Eoin Sheehan
Colm Parkinson

Michael Lyster
Sean O’Rourke
Mark Tighe
Brendan O’Connor
Aisling Bea
Sharon Horgan

wall to wall culchies out there...

Not worth a bag of oven baked goat shït unless you tell us where they go wrong, compadre.

At least none of them have won the ‘Lottho’ as the auld Doobs call it.

How come they have such a problem with the letter ‘t’

Me dotther needs to know.......

NIMAN · 18-03-2021 7:49pm

Dee Molumby just invented a totally new way of saying a word on The Last Words film review, very much in the mould of how so many people now pronounce "gen u ine lay".

She was saying posthumously but she pronounced it "post humour os ly".

walshb · 18-03-2021 8:45pm

Paddyed wrote: »

I love the radio. Generally switch between Newstalk, Radio One and Today FM. However the general standard of proper pronunciation and grammar can be jaw droppingly bad. I just listened to "Sahurday" Matt Cooper hatcheting his t/h words before passing over to Ian Guider who along with murdering his t/h's, also pronounces many words beginning with t/h as "v". Vis means vat ve turty tree teatres vat are located... Its astounding and shocking that a national broadcaster doesn't insist on minimum standards for its presenters.

Jaysus, Paddy. Any chance you could have another stab at this...😌

jojofizzio · 18-03-2021 9:07pm

blackbox wrote: »

When Matt Cooper talks about someone having a sore "troath" it is nothing to do with a regional accent.

...or having no "thread" on their tyres.

His diction is appalling for someone broadcasting regularly on a national radio station

Declan A Walsh · 18-03-2021 9:30pm

walshb wrote: »

Jaysus, Paddy. Any chance you could have another stab at this...😌

You are replying to the first post back in September 2019 and to a user who has only posted three times! :rolleyes:

HildaOgdenx · 18-03-2021 9:34pm

jojofizzio wrote: »

His diction is appalling for someone broadcasting regularly on a national radio station

Agreed.
Had to give up listening to him years ago.
Sah-erday and noooze are two that I particularly remember.

walshb · 19-03-2021 9:15am

Declan A Walsh wrote: »

You are replying to the first post back in September 2019 and to a user who has only posted three times! :rolleyes:

Thanks for the heads up!!!

plodder · 19-03-2021 9:20am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Not worth a bag of oven baked goat shït unless you tell us where they go wrong, compadre.

At least none of them have won the ‘Lottho’ as the auld Doobs call it.

How come they have such a problem with the letter ‘t’

Me dotther needs to know.......

Can't think of anyone on that list with bad diction. One that grates with me is the inability to pronounce 'th' at the end of words :-

as in "fort, fift and sixt"

Quite common on RTE Radio 1.

shtpEdthePlum · 19-03-2021 9:32am

Oh I forgot the weirdest one of all, Sean Moncrieff going "that text woll cost you 50c".

??

L1011 · 19-03-2021 10:28am

gourcuff wrote: »

its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

UK hasn't been all home counties for quite some time, indeed its quite the opposite now.

BBC quite specifically seek out regional accents for anything youth-content related. Radio 1 moved this way about 25 years ago; and now as presenters get older they turn up elsewhere

There are also a huge number of Irish voiceovers for station imaging and adverts, as it prevents it being identified as any specific English region.

Sir Oxman · 19-03-2021 1:14pm

The one that bugs the sh1t out of me is -sh instead of -t at the end of some words.
D'Arcy and Moncrieff do this all the time.

It becomes ish
Out is oush

twinklerunner · 19-03-2021 2:01pm

gourcuff wrote: »

its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

A quick list from a reddit thread...

Sarah Mcinerney
Claire Byrne
Oliver Callan
Seán Moncrieff
Ray D’Arcy
John Creedon
John Kelly
Mary Wilson
Colette Browne
Rachael English
Cormac Ó hEadhra
Darren Frehill

Matt Cooper
Ivan Yates
Jonathan Healy
Kieran Cuddihy
Shane Coleman
Andrea Gilligan
Richard Chambers
Siofra Mulqueen

Dara O’Brian
Tommy Tiernan
Damien Lawlor

Nathan Murphy
Joe Molloy

Ciaran Murphy
Billy Joe Padden
Kieran Cunningham
Ger Gilroy
Eoin Sheehan
Colm Parkinson

Michael Lyster
Sean O’Rourke
Mark Tighe
Brendan O’Connor
Aisling Bea
Sharon Horgan

wall to wall culchies out there...

Joe Duffy. Sorry to burst your bubble. Tirty tree.

Cole · 19-03-2021 3:38pm

Tis mighty altogether to see so many linguists on here...especially those whose expertise is clearly in the phonology of Irish/Hiberno English...and not a hint of a superiority (or should that be inferiority) complex at all.

plodder · 19-03-2021 4:04pm

L1011 wrote: »

UK hasn't been all home counties for quite some time, indeed its quite the opposite now.

like Beff Rigby repawtin from Westminstah...

Brendan Bendar · 07-08-2021 10:00am

Where did this RTE penchant for ‘NOOZE’ spring from?

TV3….. they are all at it now ……except the News readers.

Ballsy is the worst proponent of that disgusting pronunciation.

iffandonlyif · 07-08-2021 10:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116628749#Comment_116628749

This is such pathetic sarcasm. Explain to me how it could ever be conceived of as an inferiority complex.

ford fiesta · 07-08-2021 10:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117718887#Comment_117718887

Think Matt Cooper on today fm started this nooooze lark

Brendan Bendar · 07-08-2021 1:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117719131#Comment_117719131

I think you could be right.

it’s like COVID-19 now, running roughshod through RTE radio.

Cant believe someone in RTE standards hasn’t stepped in and put a stop to it.

BrianD3 · 07-08-2021 1:18pm

has anyone mentioned Emma O'Kelly yet? Spits out her "t" sounds in an exaggerated manner. The polar opposite to Matt "Saherday" Cooper but just as annoying. She's much worse in pre recorded reports than when she's live in the studio

Reminds me of a swotty schoolgirl in an elocution class trying to impress her tutor. "Now, in this year's Leaving CerTTTTificaTTTTe....."

Brendan Bendar · 07-08-2021 1:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117719661#Comment_117719661

Will listen out for that .

As we are at who is the one on the Weather who rasps out the Ss like grade 43 sandpaper

As in ‘Eassssst and Wessssst’

Would strip paint off a set of bannisters in about an hour.

BrianD3 · 07-08-2021 1:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117719684#Comment_117719684

Nuala Carey? Her delivery seems unnatural, slow and teacher-like.

Brendan Bendar · 07-08-2021 2:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117719805#Comment_117719805

Nope …not Nuala.

Cole · 09-08-2021 8:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117718930#Comment_117718930

If you'd left out the first sentence/comment, then I'd have bothered me arse to engage with your 'question'.

Anyway, this new Boards version is giving me a headache, so I couldn't be arsed on both counts.

gourcuff · 10-08-2021 10:32am

What do people mean by regional accents? every accent is regional...

whisky_galore · 10-08-2021 10:39am

The many many ads: "Avail-a-bill-a-dee", "Trin-a-dee", "For-dee" (40), The National "Lodder-ee", "Zuz-Dain-a-bill-a-dee"

iamwhoiam · 14-08-2021 8:56am

Loddie Ryan .

crazy 88 · 14-08-2021 9:14am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117732053#Comment_117732053

A word used by those in yellow to describe those in green

ford fiesta · 14-08-2021 11:58am

as I mentioned in the worst ad's thread: a very recent public service Covid ad pronounced "Thanks" as "sanks"

Brendan Bendar · 05-10-2021 2:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117719131#Comment_117719131

That one, Petula Martin on the Business ‘Nooze’ as she calls it is a serial ‘Nooze’ offender.

Where da fuuherke did this stuff spring from?

The ‘Nooze’ virus has spread expediently through RTE… all the Munster crowd are at it and nobody is stopping it.

what is fhuhhkkng happening here.?

Allinall · 05-10-2021 2:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117979703#Comment_117979703

I suppose it's an extension of people typing gobbledegook and expecting others to know what they're on about.

Poor diction by radio presenters

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