Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Because they can't answer direct substantive questions, like the one I posted about nuclear weapons budgets, or the one about what would they have him do differently viz. vaccines.

No different than when RIGOLO or noto were here; if they can't copy/paste, they flee with their tails between their legs. At least Pete would sort-of try to answer questions, sadly he was always wrong in his responses.

There is plenty of people won't ask direct substantive questions in this thread recently and it ain't just Trump heads.

What did the military chiefs actually tell him?

He has enough wiggle room in those answers to not be strictly lying, while of course it is pretty obvious he is not exactly looking to expand.

Take this line for example STEPHANOPOULOS: So no one told -- your military advisors did not tell you, "No, we should just keep 2,500 troops. It's been a stable situation for the last several years. We can do that. We can continue to do that"?

I am pretty certain not military guy told any POTUS we should. They put forward options. They probably said we can, we could. So techincally he wouldn't be lying.

But again we are back to your insistence that this is something important. It really isn't. At worst he attempted to present his best case in an interview, but you are intent of making it out to be either a massive lie or some proof that he is senile (senior moment). I have given you ample examples of how your narrow view of it is clearly not the only available options. I can only assume you are limiting the options to suit your own narrative.

It shows, especially with Independents that he is losing the middle ground and hopes for a 2nd term get that bit more difficult.

To paraphrase football supporters BobHopeless "are you notobtuse in disguise!?"

Come back to us when you actually have something to say.

Have you proof that Biden lied?

Or are you taking the word of somebody else over Biden's? If so then can you explain how you've decided that this person whose word you are taking as gospel deserves that?

Well the general was under oath at the time so if he was lying he was taking a big risk given that it should be easy enough to disprove his statement. Has he been charged with perjury yet?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Biden had issued an order to stay in Afghanistan or increased troop levels there, the same people on here decrying the removal of America from the country would be calling him a warmonger instead.

Such people cannot be trusted to give an honest opinion on these matters. Their only interest is in doing down a man and a party that they are opposed to by default, which they are desperate to do by any means they can. They don't even convince themselves with their rhetoric.

I don't know too much about the details of the nuclear weapons budget but I don't think making sure they maintain the level of deterrent they have in the past is a bad idea, Especially retaining second strike capacity.

In terms of the vaccine stuff, he's jumped the gun on some issues like the booster doses, similarly on masks he's not had great optics at times, the vaccine mandates I don't know, it depends on how many quit in key roles- too early to say. Honestly think he should constantly be making the point that Trump threw billions at developing the vaccine and is in favour of their use. The CDC hasn't been covering itself in glory, it's a big organisation and it isn't producing much of its own data and there is reasonable arguments that it is cherry picking studies from abroad to suit whatever agendas it has not sure if that's on Biden though. He also should be clearer on his figures or be more considerate with his speech. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/biden-says-97-to-98-of-americans-need-to-be-vaccinated-before-returning-to-normal/ar-AAOToeE?ocid=uxbndlbing

Take this for example, what he is saying doesn't actually seem to make much sense and is realistically unachievable. Delta is transmissible among vaccinated people.

I would give him a B on it.

How is it a fatal blow?

I know what you believe, you have told us that any number of times. The problem is your belief doesn't stand up to reality.

I have pointed out a myriad of other scenarios, yet you seem completely unable to even accept that any of them are possible. Since you were not in the room, you cannot possibly know the reality.

Where in that transcript does the General state that he told Biden he should keep the troops there? He recommended it. Like I suggested earlier, military leaders don't tell the POTUS what he should do, they recommend various options and POTUS decides.

Biden was asked did the Generals say he should keep 2,500 troops, Biden said they didn't. Based on the transcript Biden is indeed telling the truth.

Here is the transcript that you posted of the interview;

STEPHANOPOULOS: But your top military advisors warned against withdrawing on this timeline. They wanted you to keep about 2,500 troops.

BIDEN: No, they didn't. It was split. Tha-- that wasn't true. That wasn't true.

So it certainly appears in Bidens answer that he is saying that not all of them wanted it. It was split. Nothing the general said contradicts that.

STEPHANOPOULOS: They didn't tell you that they wanted troops to stay?

BIDEN: No. Not at -- not in terms of whether we were going to get out in a timeframe all troops. They didn't argue against that.

Did the general testify that a he wanted troops to stay? HE said he recommended it, but Biden then adds the bit about the timeline.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So no one told -- your military advisors did not tell you, "No, we should just keep 2,500 troops. It's been a stable situation for the last several years. We can do that. We can continue to do that"?

BIDEN: No. No one said that to me that I can recall. Look, George, the reason why it's been stable for a year is because the last president said, "We're leaving. And here's the deal I wanna make with you, Taliban. We're agreeing to leave if you agree not to attack us between now and the time we leave on May the 1st."

The general did not state that he said 'we should keep 2,500 troops" in his testimony. So again, Biden is not lying.

It is a disingenous use of language, but it isn't a lie.