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Fifa 22 Ultimate Team discussion thread

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I am also in division 5, so yeah 100 for a win. But rivals rewards you for only 7 wins so that is double blow if you have to win 15 games ( or less with a few points for draws and losses)



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I have tried and failed many times to get into FUT. I have made way more progress this year, definitely have my best ever team.

    Only reason is I bought ultimate edition so got 4600 points free and then bought 4600 on top.

    Never bought points in previous years and it’s not fun. IMO you need to be willing to spend some €€ to enjoy FUT unless you love grinding.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    A 78+ upgrade out requiring 5 golds.

    Guess they're trying to reduce the supply of common golds in order to increase the price of them and kick start some activity on the market.

    About time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Did 5 of them, got an 81 Vaclik as my highest. Prob won’t do anymore.. supply is slowly dwindling.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    1-3 in my first WL qualifier attempt :/


    it’s savagely boring too. Everyone trying to grind out 1-0 wins where they just hold possession and sit deep. By condensing it down, they’ve taken away all the fun of trying to play a game of football, and made everyone want ultra conservative. I only lost one of the three badly. The other two were very close. Just boring. Even in the win I got, the guy was losing 1-0 and still refusing to do anything but sit deep….


    It’s really not making me want to bother with trying this regularly.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Oh boy, not sure I should play WL.

    Absolutely nothing triggers me in FIFA like someone who just keeps possession at the back. I hate these people. They ruin the whole game.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Like, I get it’s a legit tactic, and the whole competition aspect rewards it.


    But I just can’t be arsed with it. I am much happier losing 5-4 than winning 1-0 with time wasting. And I don’t even mind if it’s cause the teams are mismatched but you see lads playing super teams with dire stuff.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's legit in the same way taking the ball into the corner is legit, but people who do this are also people I hate.

    I play for fun, these people ruin it. If someone is semi competent it is easy to keep the ball at the back and never give it away, it makes it practically impossible to compete.

    I am starting to realise it's better to just quit on these people. Better to take the L quickly than take the L, waste a load of time and end up triggered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,518 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Did 5 of the 78+ upgrades so far. Luis Alberto, Chiellini, Coates, Pellegrini and Rebic.

    I can actually use Chiellini, and the rest are great SBC fodder. I might run all my common golds through this, the hit rate doesn’t look too bad at all.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,984 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Best goal from Robbie so far





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,518 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I’ve done about 20 already. My luck has dried up but I got Aguero in the last one so I’ll leave it at that I think. Nothing amazing from it, but it’s put some money in the bank for Icon or Hero SBCs at least. Would recommend doing a few.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    Interesting about FUT Champs rewards this year is that you get the rewards as soon as you finish your 20 games.

    Very handy if you qualify and had a busy weekend ahead, in theory you could play all 20 of your games on Friday and receive your rewards immediately.

    Also EA have confirmed that qualifying match-making is based on form, just like WL. So say you go 0-2 in your first 2 games for example, you'll be matching people with the same records.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Did ten of those new upgrades. 7 duplicates, and three new cards all 78 rated.


    So flipped back to the normal gold upgrades.


    Kevin DeBryune in pack two.


    Not sure how to fit him in, but might just finish cycling my common golds through it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I didnt cop until earlier that the max is 90 and whatever division you're in after 90 is the max reward. So for me, I'm pushing for D2 now but already maxed my 90 games. I thought that was just going to keep going up but just realised today its finished on my end.

    There actually is, as in the Elite division you get TOTW picks as well.

    If you dont think you can get there though then yes it's not overly important.

    I had around 2100 points last year so I dont see why I wont be able to get in there and it's my best way to catch up without putting money in.

    I just think i need to win more than 50% of my games(maybe theres more winning streaks in there but from the menu I dont see it being more than +1/-1 three steps for a checkpoint.

    Might not do it before Thurs but I'm up to S3 D3 so next is D2. I'll hopefully hit there before Thursday week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Any chance you could play my games for me? Haha



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You dont want me to play. Im plagued by button delay 😁.

    But seriously if you only have to win more games than you lose, then I don't see why anyone from D1/D2 couldn't make it.

    Maybe theres some curve balls in D2/D1 with relegation or big win streaks needed but looking ahead in the progress it just looks like +1/-1 over 3/4 steps to checkpoint.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Better to have button delays than to be me and not know the right buttons to press 😁😄

    Will take me a long time to get the qualification points even needed to have a chance of even qualifying, nearly into Div 6 now though so hopefully the extra qualification points will help me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,984 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Price ranges have been changed and Keanes are back on the market, picked mine up for 387k as soon as they were released...... cheapest right now is 590k 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Ginola 1.7m and Di Natale 1.1m too.. Joe Cole for 458k looks good tho, have heard good things about him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    I got De Bruyne in a pack over the weekend. Put him straight into my team. Didn't win a single Rivals game. Took him back out and put Tielemans back in and win 2 out of 4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,518 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Played a few games last night with all my shiny new players and pretty much the same thing happened to me. Same formation, same tactics, yet when I switch the likes of Telles, Isak and Henderson for Spinnazola, Auba and Pogba, my results fall of a cliff and I can't string 2 passes together even against the weakest SB teams.

    What's the incentive to build an expensive squad when the game only penalises you for it with scripting? Last night I remembered why I gave up FUT a couple of years ago.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    What mechanic is at play there? Loyalty?



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I used to believe in scripting, and maybe it was true a few years ago.

    But now I'd be confident it's just button delay.

    It will mess up everything. Tackles are never clean, ground passes feel manual as they never go where they're meant to, you get run down and dispossessed cleanly over and over.

    It has all the hallmarks of scripting but it's just everything is delayed.

    What I do find though is that the tactics and instructions are broken.

    My wingers ALWAYS push up on the wing backs and stand there. I've tried 4222, 442 and other variations and it keeps happening. Even putting my players to come short does nothing and the CDM always just bombs forward(using Fabinhio right now so he has the right work rates).

    I keep finding that when I have the ball in my half or in midfield that I have nobody to pass it to as people push on and stand beside the defenders.

    I've tried possession, fast, slow, direct.. I'm not finding any difference in how my team moves off the ball for me.

    I'll have to shake it up big time and just copy someones tactics/formation later as no matter what I've tried Im finding nothing is changing how my team plays.

    I had even taken my CDM out yest and found no difference playing Mount there instead.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    Can someone recommend a good left sided midfielder/attacker? I've got Zaha in there right now but he isn't really that productive for me.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Yep, I’d recommend copying tactics off YouTube - using HugeGorilla’s 4321 atm but the likes of NealsGuides and FUTAnalyst are very good too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,984 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    Yeah new Rivals is just bad, I lose like 10 games in a row, then finally improve slightly and win a couple, get promoted, and lose 10 in a row again. It's not fun.


    AND all of this is only being done for ONE pack at the end of the week.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I guess opponents may have quicker reaction times too. In season 5 you definitely need 2 wins without a loss in between, which can be difficult. I think you need 8 wins in total in that division



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    Probably only around 30K. I guess that just gets me someone like Carrasco.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Hiya - Is there a way to get an EA Play/Access trial (want to try out FIFA for 10 hours)?

    Or is it just worth going the 1 Month route? Don't want to commit to buying FIFA. Need a PES alternative to do me for the year but I'm skeptical as a PES lover.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    I was in the same boat. I hadn't bought FIFA since the original release on the Mega Driver in 1994. I've always been a PES player. But that series is dead, so I gave FIFA a chance.

    I'm on PlayStation and signed up to EA Play for €1 for a month to play the trial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,893 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    If I saw the way to do €1 a month, I'd happily do that. I assume the €1 is via a non-Irish account? Showing as 3.99 for me



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,437 ✭✭✭Josey Wales


    I did it on my Irish PSN account. I assume the deal has just finished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    Funny you should say that, because I had exactly the same experience yesterday. I upgraded my team with Chiesa, Skrinar, Barella, Handanovic, OTW Dumfries, Emre Can, who were all much better than the likes of Bellingham who they replaced. Same formation, same tactics, same division, and I literally could not pass the ball 5 yards. Neto was as overpowered as every keeper for me previously, but Handanovic was diving out of the way of shots, and palming weak shots straight at him into the corner of his own net.

    The amount of really basics mistakes was nuts. Chiesa had worse dribbling than Diego Carlos who was my previous CB. Presume it's something to do with loyalty. Very odd anyway. The connection in the games showed the same ping as all previous nights.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I’m using Coman and think he’s good, but he’s 40k. IF Diaz is meant to be very good, but tough to chem in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,518 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Glad it’s not just me anyway, thought it was in my head for a while but the drop off in performance was so stark it was impossible to ignore. I’m not so sure it has much to do with loyalty though, I packed a couple of brilliant players in midfield and they’ve been the worst performers of the lot, with loyalty. Maybe my tactics aren’t suitable for better quality players, I might have another look and see what I can change.

    Keep me posted if you notice an improvement and how it came about, because I’m still playing like I have 11 bronze players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Quiet in work so was sniping away the last 2 days… up 70k atm. 3-4 Maguires just sold on my last cycle too for 4.5k each, bought for 1.8k. Not too bad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,757 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    You get 200 qualification points for a win in div 4 so getting into qualifying is definitely a lot more doable as you get through the divisions



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    Regular gold Insigne is miles better than that Pedro Flashback SBC card they've released this evening!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,984 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    80k+ for that Pedro card, very few gold cards in the game that cost more than that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Damn, there must still be a lot of lazy buyers out there. Tonnes of Maguires available for 2-2.5k BIN on the PS market right now. The silver cards I'm trading have dried up the last day or two.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,169 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The lack of any progress for a draw in Rivals is really infuriating.

    I just drew 1-1 against someone with a far better team than me, thanks to really excellent defending for 80 minutes, and he scores the equaliser with a minute to go. Feels like a double whammy, all for nothing!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Man, having played a full qualifier mode now (and ending up 3-5), I’m just baffled by it really. It’s pretty much gated WL off for me.


    realistically, 3-5 is about par for the course for me. Usually I’d have gone 14-16, which reduces down to close enough 4-5. But that 3-5 really flattered me, as one win was a gifted win and one needed a 93rd minute penalty. I’ll need to get lucky to qualify for a WL, and realistically, I’ll need to regather the 1500 points.


    and I’m thinking then, how awful it will be if I do get in, and all the other casual players aren’t there. Filtering out all the “easy” games sounds like it would be miserable.


    So, most weekends, there’ll be no WL to play, and WL was 90% of why I played; building teams to get the rewards. With that’s gone, I reckon interest will fall off FAST for the game overall. The weekends I do qualify, I’ll likely get slaughtered.


    And I’m not sitting here thinking “Well, I failed to qualify, maybe if I had better players? Maybe if I bought some packs?”. I’m just sitting here thinking, “nah, No point cause even with better players, I’d be killed so why bother at all?”


    (upside, did pack OtW Locatelli from the reward pack I got for my failed attempt to qualify).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭Calvin


    Yeah, found silvers died once everyone had the starter SBCs done. The daily SBC from yday made them spike again for an hour or so though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Which is a shame because they're the only thing I've ever been able to reliably make coins on :(


    Just packed Werner, surprised to see he's worth 30k. Is he any good?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,962 ✭✭✭Hogey007


    Completely agree with all that, I like you would fail to qualify sometimes, and I know people say “oh well once you qualify you can lose all 20 and still get decent rewards”, but that’s not really the point, rewards are nice of course but I’d actually want to play some games competitively.

    I wouldn’t spend money on fifa points either as I know that’s not the issue, but many will.

    I do think they’ll have to change something though.

    if the casuals all drop away after 2 or 3 months then the decent g1 elite 3 players of last year will become the bottom feeders for the best players and they’ll lose interest too



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭BrentMused



    I was thinking the same as you man, but after watching the below video from Nepenthez started to think a bit differently.

    Also, this is going to be the toughest week possible to qualify. A lot of players won't have the 1500 points needed to even try the playoffs until next week, and in general the standard of player in the playoffs this week will be abnormally high.

    I'm sure you will start to pretty easily qualify as the weeks go on, and as you progress in Rivals it won't be as long to accumulate the 1500 points either.

    Would be interested to hear what people think of what he says:

    https://youtu.be/JuVyH0dwlUE

    I'll give the playoffs a bash myself tomorrow so my tune could change very quickly if I get destroyed mind!



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