Star Trek: Lower Decks (animated series)

pixelburp · 01-10-2021 2:38pm

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People have been banned for posting much less. Pass the eye bleach please.

Evade · 01-10-2021 3:30pm

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I hadn't noticed until now

TheValeyard · 01-10-2021 5:20pm

That was a great episode. Absolutely fun and definitely character building.

One of the best of season two.

The Borg babies LMAO

breezy1985 · 01-10-2021 5:32pm

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Remember when VOY had one of those then it just kinda disappeared

TheValeyard · 01-10-2021 5:45pm

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True. But Lower Decks have had some great consistency in its story telling.

Also they didn't nerf the Borg or anything as it was a holodeck.

I am right that the number of Borg babies kept increasing right? Lol

I'd buy an Eaglemoss of that.

flazio · 01-10-2021 6:28pm

My only complaint this week is we didn't get longer in Mariner's mirror simulation.

Stark · 01-10-2021 9:28pm

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Just thankful they didn't make it look all Sovereign class.

JayRoc · 02-10-2021 7:13am

That was probably the one I enjoyed the most so far this season.

Rawr · 02-10-2021 9:05am

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I particularly liked the score of Borg segments. I think they pulled over the music and tone of BOBW for that.

Again I enjoyed myself a lot.

Also…starting to see why there’s going to be a kid’s version of a Trek show. Really can’t show kids this one :P

AMKC · 02-10-2021 6:27pm

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Why what's wrong with the Sovereign class? It's a great looking ship.

I would also buy an Eaglemoss ship of the Cerritos just to see what other designs they had before coming to the final design and because its not the worst ship but not the best either.

02-10-2021 7:18pm

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Freeman demanded that they NOT make it all Sovereign like during the refit

pixelburp · 05-10-2021 7:28pm

Of course it would be the one time Boimler exceeds and is the absolute boss, nobody notices, his score isn't officially marked and is left scarred by his "success" for the crew's sake. Guy made the Borg look easy; unless it was just cockiness born from knowing it was a simulation.

flazio · 05-10-2021 8:04pm

There have been two major animated series running side by side for the past few weeks, this and Marvel's What If. Now I consider myself a bigger MCU fan then Trekkie but honestly I've been looking forward to Lower Decks far more than What If every week.

Stark · 05-10-2021 8:17pm

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Had it been the real thing, he probably would have **** himself.

05-10-2021 9:34pm

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Except how he handled last week...

pixelburp · 06-10-2021 4:31am

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I think that's possibly where the story's going; Boimler realising he's a good, talented officer who just gets in his own head too much. That if he just stops getting in his own way, he'd be an ace.

He's someone without any pretensions or star power, but puts too much stock in the celebrity of the officer class and their myth as perfect beings ... and OMG he's Tilly. I like her but Man, Tilly written by this shows writers would be so much less a simpering mess.

06-10-2021 6:12am

The one thing I don't get, about this show...

Where are the non-coms?

breezy1985 · 06-10-2021 9:09am

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Trek always had a ridiculous lack of constantly with that. A lot of the time it looked like everybody was at least an ensign.

TOS had yoemen and crewmen and DS9 at least the senior staff were not all high ranks

flazio · 06-10-2021 9:46am

It is one detail that bugs me a bit. Star Fleet academy graduates assigned bunks in the corridors and made to sonic shower in unisex communal facilities. Cadets I'd understand but at least give ensigns something like 6 person dormers. Harry Kim had personal quarters for crying out loud.

Evade · 06-10-2021 10:41am

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I think it's a tribute to the TOS movie style bunks before someone realised how big ships in Star Trek actually are. Voyager is about the same size as a Nimitz class carrier but one has a crew of less than 200 the other over 3,000, excluding the air wing.

The other possibility is they're taking a leaf out of the Terran Federation from Starship Troopers' book (the showers are definitely a nod to the movie). Service is and should be hard, at least in the beginning, and lower ranks have to earn creature comforts.

If the ensigns sleep in a corridor I'd hate to see where the boot crewmen sleep.

TheValeyard · 06-10-2021 10:48am

I'd wonder if it's only the crappier (Cerritos) class ships have the sleepy corridor but classier ships have more creature comforts.

Stark · 06-10-2021 10:56am

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Yeah that seems to be the case. Like the senior officers on the Cerritos were surprised to hear they slept in a hallway so they must have had more comfortable accommodation when they were junior officers. From what I can tell from other shows, it's generally 2 to a quarters at Ensign level with own quarters at Lt. JG and up.

Evade · 06-10-2021 10:59am

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If I'm not mistaken the idea behind the ridiculous amount of officers in TOS was in the 60s the barrier to entry for officers was assumed to be access to higher education and the associated costs, something which wouldn't apply in star Trek so anyone who wanted to be an officer could be.

It sort of worked the opposite way in real life as technical roles in the military got more complicated there are more college educated enlisted personnel.

06-10-2021 11:35am

Yet we had that crewman in Drumhead who didn't go to the academy because the heritage checks would be more intense.

And our favourite non com, Miles

breezy1985 · 06-10-2021 1:27pm

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The guy in drumhead didn't want people to find out his family are actually Romulan not Vulcan. It wasn't a class thing if I remember correctly.

I always assumed that DS9 had Lt. Junior grades as department heads and a commander in charge because it was a sh1t posting

flazio · 06-10-2021 2:27pm

To begin with, but then Dominion war happened and everyone pipped up one notch except Dax who was demoted two ranks for dying.

To tie it back to Lower Decks, I can just imagine that Mariner looked up to Jadzia while she was posted in DS9 and was probably friends with her. The way she behaves is a lot like the Trill. She mentioned breaking Worf's bat'leth once, that episode in season one where she's bringing the Klingon general to a Starfleet Base is typical of how Jadzia would behave. She's definitely spent time with Dax.

Cookie_Monster · 06-10-2021 11:48pm

it's best to just ignore the fact that everyone doesn't have their own room on a gigantic starship. There really is very little in the way of realisation of just how big saucer sections allow ships to be.

Ent D reckoned at 826k square metres of floor space. The Cerritos is obviously much smaller but still huge

https://nerdist.com/article/star-treks-enterprise-d-size-video/

Evade · 07-10-2021 12:39am

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It does explain why everyone, except Data and Worf, get a room with a window

Stark · 07-10-2021 4:13am

Yeah but most of that space is needed for turbolift shafts 😛

07-10-2021 9:16am

The Borg, oh my sweet jesus. That is the best thing I have ever seen!!!

Great episode, the views of other lower decks was a nice contrast.

So I imagine that we are getting a new science officer. I imagine that she will be a Mariner foil? Vulcan Hothead Vs Human Hothead

2nd week in a row where we see that, even with his best efforts failing, Boimler has made quite an impression on the senior bridge crew. They all seem to see "something" in him.

We get an answer to the Packled issue, don't have a clue how that will play out from here.

Was that a Cadet or NCO?

Edit: Cadet it would seem.

Always thought it was a pity that Uncharted film took so long to get going and, at the same time, never considered their own actor for the role. Man looked like Nathan Drake (and, like, obviously had the voice/attitude locked in)

CastorTroy · 07-10-2021 11:37am

Wow, that T'Lyn was out of control!

Will be interesting to see how she gets on with the Cerritos since I'm assuming that's where she's been assigned to.

Spear · 07-10-2021 1:39pm

A lot more ambitious and creative in it's story telling and setup this week, with the comedic premise of the three parallel ships tales taking a sudden turn back into the neglected series long story arc.

Thought it does seem to raise the possibility that the series antagonist is already dead, and the series could end with the Cerritos crew never even knowing there was such an antagonist, let alone his fate.

Slydice · 07-10-2021 9:24pm

2.9: That was great! How do I know? Because like.. every 20 seconds or so, I was like "This is my favourite part of this episode!"

IT JUST!

It just kept getting better! The whole episode was just like a wave of fun.

The episode also had a plot and kept the main story going!

The Klingon Bangs line really set me off

The Vulcan losing control!

The Borg!

Big nod for including a uniform I can only remember being worn by

Wesley (black and grey)

Remember kids! You can't join Starfleet Security unless you know that

Fighting Fascism is a full-time job!

AMKC · 08-10-2021 12:10am

That's was another excellent episode. Amazing how they fitted so much into it and developed not only the story but the charathers too.

The Borg Lower Decks lol. Great way to keep you attention as it goes over do lol.

The Paklead Lower Decks was hilarious too.

The cerritos took quiet a pounding. Was lucky the Vulcan ship turned up but I could not believe how week the Vulcan shields were compared to the Cerritos.

I was thinking your one would fit in good on the Cerritos alright. Look forward to seeing her there.

breezy1985 · 08-10-2021 7:29am

When was the Borg bit. How did I miss that ?

AMKC · 08-10-2021 8:44am

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At the end during the credits.

breezy1985 · 08-10-2021 8:49am

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Damn I switched off early

breezy1985 · 08-10-2021 10:43am

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Finally saw the ending. Great episode again this week and possibly the best idea for an episode the show has had.

Also the Vulcan science officer is very Kim Cattrall looking

Evade · 08-10-2021 11:05am

That was pretty good.

I always thought it was weird that the Vulcans still have their own fleet and can also have their own Starfleet ships.

The bright pink blood is back.

Are they setting up to write Brad out ou the series? Dropping all the hints of how competent and respected he is and now transferring a new lower decker in. Replacing some of the cast every so often, Mariner aside, wouldn't be a bad thing only Harry Kim can be a perpetual ensign.

TheValeyard · 08-10-2021 1:31pm

What a great episode. The writers really do get Trek.

Absolute delight.

Really excited for next week.

The end credits was hilarious. Actually looks kinda relaxing!

flazio · 08-10-2021 4:37pm

Hands up, who wants a 'Ritos shirt?

FunLover18 · 08-10-2021 4:51pm

So presumably the Vulcan will be joining the Cerritos.

flazio · 08-10-2021 7:50pm

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I got a Vulcan "Ro Lauren" vibe off her.

breezy1985 · 08-10-2021 8:44pm

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Na it was definitely a Valeris tribute

santana75 · 08-10-2021 9:15pm

Wow what an episode. Last week's was great but this week even topped that. Even the music score was epic.

Evade · 08-10-2021 10:41pm

I just realised next week is the last episode, possibly no more good Star Trek for almost a year after that. It's still amazing how the animated comedy series manages to get the season long serialised story arcs told through largely self contained episodes right and the live action, so far, can't.

breezy1985 · 09-10-2021 12:20am

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Sad thing is Discovery is at its best when it tries it out. The Mudd episode and the weird church one are my favourites. One is stand alone and one could easily be

Evade · 09-10-2021 1:07am

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I think it'll really hurt STD and PIC in the long run too, you can't just throw on an episode, the two you mentioned aside, if you have some time to kill.

pixelburp · 09-10-2021 5:57am

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And the fact Discovery even did those kind of episodes was maddening; to know the production team had that speed in their wheelhouse, has made all the chaff and nonsense all the tougher to swallow. And don't even get me started on the wasted premise that was season 3- something that openly hinted at more Story of the Week ideas...

Stark · 09-10-2021 9:49am

Loved it. Great pacing, surprised how much they fit in 22 mins. Good mix of character development, funny moments, some standalone plot, service to the overall story arc that felt natural and not at the expense of the characters and their stories.

Was thinking through that episode that the Vulcan Lower decks character would make a great addition to the regular cast and looks like it's going that way. Can the Cerritos handle another emotionally unstable loose cannon alongside Mariner though?

Also confirms a theory I had about the reason for not seeing more Vulcans/Andorians/Tellorites etc. on Starfleet vessels is the species largely stick to their own ships because they can't handle the smell or it's easier to have environmental controls set for one species etc.

Edit: Sorry guys, can't seem to find the spoiler tags in the new Boards interface :(

Star Trek: Lower Decks (animated series)

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