Dart + (Coolmine LC closure issues)

"Oh no!"

Not a few extra minutes!

How will we cope?

Sorry but it's the same tired story across the city. Car drivers who use other people to hide their own selfishness whilst presenting extra minutes to a car journey as the end of the world. It's ridiculous.

Once again, trying to shame people because 'cars' I like how you just ignore every other type of wheeled traveller.

Cars bad m'kay.

Whats ridiculous is you thinking you can just remove a busy road that people use for shopping, work, travel throughout the D15 area and not face a backlash.

A third option will have to be found.

Do you live in the area or are you directly affected by this crossing closing?

I don't know how easier I can put this, but the same excuses you are using for D15, the same people use everywhere.

And the same attempt you make to "think of others" is the same attempt made by others.

I am simply not gullible enough to fall for your selfishness dressed as concern.

Sorry but no.

The road won't stay open (hilarious as it would be to leave it "open" but have the barriers actually down all day - its unsafe and the signaling complexity incompatible with the line capacity required)

Locals need to realise that their convenience does not over-rule safety.

Varadkar opposing this is a disgrace on a national level. O'Gorman opposing (if he does - I doubt it) it would be sufficient to suggest he should resign from the party.

If the residents are so opposed to this, they could just stop being opposed to the original replacement road bridge that was canned due to such opposition.

It won't be closing. There will need to be another solution. Particularly if local TDs (whom are in government) wish to retain their seats next election.

Road is needed. Alternative ideas are needed. Not to send all cars down to Laurel Lodge and clogg up that road.

It will be closing. You may have been used to an Ireland where sustainable transport options are placed below the personal needs of people who drive and create the traffic they complain about, but that time is over. Sorry, Have a nice day, please cease replying to me

We will see wont we?

I dont see it closing. I'd sacrifice the electric rail to keep the road. Happy not to have Dart service if that's the case.

Residents are organised over this.

I know ye dont agree with it, but fine. Crossing will remain.

Residents of D15 will not be put in a position to oppose the DART+ upgrade for areas well beyond D15 - and the Navan rail line which also needs this enhanced capacity

The crossing is closing.

If you can think of some other plausible solution to keep a method of cars to cross the railway line there, come out with it - but the level crossing is closing.

If the residents didn't oppose the original replacement bridge this wouldn't even be an issue. But they did, and this is what they get. Consequences!

If the residents are so opposed to this, they could just stop being opposed to the original replacement road bridge that was canned due to such opposition.

In fairness, the current bridge and its originally proposed replacement are in different locations. They are not really the same groups of people affected.

I'm know I'm a bit down on IE but the new bridge idea was absolutely crazy. Part of me thinks they floated it just so their real solution would seem more palatable. They couldn't really have thought it would fly.

The Stables are a far more reasonable thing to complain about

I think the impact of the LC closing on local traffic seems dismissed by many here. Together with the Humback bridge (HB) the Coolmine LC are the most used crossings of the greater residential area. Given the already limited capacity of HB, a LC closure will not just add kilometres worth of extra driving but huge traffic issues to which the local roads and junctions are not designed to deal with.

Creating a road bride over the crossing seems to me the most logical solution. Either over the crossing or in the near estate. For the few negatively affected houses at the current crossing, an inflated buyout of land or compensation should be offered and the problem solved.

I do agree that public transport is an essential service but with weak timeliness and its very high costs many will stick to cars regardless of these pushes which may inadvertently lead to higher traffic and emissions such as seen in reducing road capacity in various areas of the city.

I am aware of the proposals being rejected however as a local I would only be in favour of LC closure if a nearby road crossing is built.

I don't see how LC closure would solve timeliness and the extortionate costs of public transport in the country, given that they are fixed times and especially trains not having to deal with road traffic really shouldn't have recurring delays of 5+ minutes on a 30min track.

I'm a ten minute walk from the LC and it's useful to me and would be a bit of a pain in some aspects if it closed.

That said I also think DART+ is miles more important and if it means a longer walk to the shops or a bit more traffic in some estates, so be it. Hopefully it closes and we get this much needed service ASAP. Selfish residents who don't rely on DART+ will always object to a service that impacts them in order to appease the masses, it'll always be the way, I just hope they aren't listened to.

Take a look at the delays and costs caused by (bad drivers crashing in to) Merrion Gates

Take any LC that is down more often than its up and you'll get frequent incidents.