Sarah Everard Murder - Serving Met Officer Arrested *Mod Note in OP*

It was not his personal business when the event was a work event.

Maybe I don’t get the “socially acceptable” element again.

There is little point debating why and how workplaces address internal and external issues differently. And people who are too stupid to understand how their public online activities can impact their career do not deserve any better tbh, but that's another matter.

I didn't object to the claim that the ball was clearly dropped somewhere, and that there is no effective assessment procedure in place. But what's the point in listing all of the things that now appear to be "clear indicators" in hindsight? Just because someone is a bit of a creep and objectifies women does not mean that they will go on to rape and murder a woman, and you can bet that there will be people in the force who now feel bad for having interpreted his behavior incorrectly.

The rumor mill after an event is a funny thing, because hardly anyone will know what superiors were notified about. And hookers at a Christmas party will have been the least of their concerns in comparison to the flashing ones.

And to avoid confusion. I am not trying to be difficult here and have an argument for the sake of it. My post that you had quoted was an admission that I struggle with understanding some social expectations and boundaries because they make no sense to me.

I did watch that and I did not get the same impression as you at all. They put in a lot of effort over many years to find him.

you must have watched another program so because the lad in charge of the investigation looked on the verge of tears that the whole thing was so under resourced, I think he said he had two officers working on it at one stage

Multiple others mentioned the same, how they felt sorry that he was seen as carrying the can for this.

They caught him after doing a week or 2 of stakeout, he was committing 3 or 4 burglaries a night. Its not like he was waiting months between attacks.

Someone that brazen is asking to be caught.

Imagine the if someone was after raping maybe 30 grannies in south dublin, thats the level it was at

Yes

they they moved from doing nothing to doing something

it had been going on for 20 years, when did they suddenly get an idea where he might strike? The data was not new and he had been doing it for 20 years, hundreds of offenses

I mean they got a lead on the car type he was using, early on in the stakeout, through some fairly crap cctv, and the guy who spotted the type, wow what a job, a silver zaffira and then did nothing with the information that they mentioned, i mean the first thing they should have done was start going through the list of those owners who matched the profile and re-checking them

you would have to go out of your way to not catch a person like this

The Met police really covering themselves in glory with their behaviour towards women

what are you trying to say?

I know you feel duty bound to defend the police but try and actually read the article before responding.

from the article

"I'm a police officer" is pretty clear in my mind. Perhaps not as much in yours.

report them to the people that were making them?

There's nothing to report. She said that she had reported the threats, but someone connecting on a dating app hasn't done anything reportable, even though such a high rate of police officers doing it would suggest that it's been shared on WhatsApp or similar and the intent is intimidation.

This woman is very much a high-profile activist as opposed to a "right time, right place" person. But that doesn't make it any more OK for her to be a target for threats or harassment. One might say, "She's looking for media attention", and even if that's the case, it doesn't actually matter.

In these kinds of campaigns some people deliberately make themselves lightning rods; public faces that attract ire so that they can go public and make a lot of noise about it. Another woman might try to go quiet and get on with their lives. This woman is making a point of standing up and shining a light on what happens to people who dare to stand up.

I remember at the time people trying to discount her arrest because she was a known activist. When the reality is that it was a vigil for a murdered woman that became a pretty harsh police crackdown. And although the argument is "covid restrictions", there were many events after this one which were considerably more violent and dangerous, and never got the same police response.

Which implies that the UK Met saw this vigil as a direct attack on them, and used the opportunity to defend their honour by engaging in a bit of brutality.

And her treatment afterwards continues to suggest that there are some police officers (and men) who take umbrage at the suggestion that Everard's murder might have something to do with police or men.

So if you received texts like this from people sending coordinated messages (incl pics wearing their uniforms) would I you not screenshot them and report them? Not even to the dating app provider?

She reported the other threats, but not these ones, so something isn’t adding up.

She does.

She wants the police to stop acting like see you next Tuesdays.