Dart + (Coolmine LC closure issues)

The train would only be impacted if a vehicle gets stuck on the train crossing. Someone "breaking the lights" makes no difference to the LC closing.

Absolutely agree that capacity improvements and electrification of the line are a good thing. Just would prefer for a solution that negatively impacts the least eg.: closure of LC and building of bridge.

Simple solution would be to install or utilise current cameras that automatically send out fines & penalty points to anyone breaking the lights such as in many states in the US. This with accompanying signage would solve the issue quickly.

If this was practically or legislatively simple, they'd have done it for Merrion Gates decades ago.

AFAIK there already are cameras in the City which specifically catch those breaking red lights so it shouldn't be that difficult? If it is, while legislation etc. is being sorted then have some of the patrolling guards set up in a not too obvious spot and go to town. Having looked up the occurence at merrion gates, the mind does boggle how people manage to hit them.

That's a shame, would have through they were kept and more put in place to deal with the widespread breaking of red lights.

I see that now, increased fines and pp in that instance would seem to be the only way then.

Lots of talk here about residents opposing the level crossing being closed?

as a resident it’s all news to me, I don’t know anyone who is giving out about the proposed closure.

but I only see one poster who is against it and seems to believe it won’t happen.

Am I missing something?

The issue with building a new bridge as part of the new Kellystown development is the same as building a new bridge as part of DART+; where do you put it?

Wherever it is proposed, somebody is going to have an issue with it. They have already dropped the proposed bridge at Stationcourt Way so the precedent is set, complain enough and the bridge will get dropped. There is just no acceptable location so no bridge will be provided, but of course the people who brought about this situation still aren't happy.

Well no.

there is a big difference between building a bridge on a greenfield site and one through an existing housing estate.

planning for kellystown without a bridge shows a lack of foresight and common sense. It’

Where they were initially going to build Lidl maybe?

or could go slightly further west around west mans town and link over to ongar

Of course it helps. Having more bridges spreads out the traffic so it’s not all shoehorned down the same route

well my tupence worth from living in Riverwood for the last 20 years .

I see it all the time, countless cars using chapelizod to avoid the m50 toll. They head over the level crossing or DR Troy bridge on to their destination in Blanch, clonsilla, but I know a lot to further out, ongar, clonee, dunboyne and beyond. The only route they use is through the housing estates in carpenterstown.

so it’s not just a local route, it is a busy rat run.

so give them a proper alternative, drive them onto a better road….. ie improve the porterstown road down past the hotel all the way down to westmanstown and put a bridge there to link up with ongar. Pretty much green field all the way at the moment but guaranteed to be built up over the coming years. This will take a hell of a lot of the traffic away from the built up housing estates.

problem in this country is we don’t think and plan ahead!

"There will be traffic chaos, for everyone in D15."

"Close it at rush hour, leave it functional the rest of the day. I genuinely don't see why that can't be done."

This is contradictory.

The only time there will be traffic chaos will be at rush hour, so by closing it at rush hour you're not preventing any of the chaos you say will result.

You're also, as all people always do, ignoring the indisputable fact that less traffic space leads to less traffic and that provision of better public transport encourages modal shift, and you're also ignoring the fact that the roads that traffic would be diverted on to will be upgraded to increase flow.

It takes some neck to call rail engineers incompetent when your suggestion literally causes the issue you're trying to avoid.

Over developed (vs the infrastructure) and abysmal planning. They've done the same thing for decades. Won't listen.

Most of the bridges are a detriment to the local communities at peak. They suck in rat runners and make it gridlock at peak.

If you don't want to be in traffic, go off peak or don't drive. Otherwise you are in a car, you are traffic and its only going to get worse.