French catholic church inquiry finds 216,000 abuse cases between 1950-2020

Same as here. The arrogance and cover-ups were identical in every country...... did that come from Rome via the seminaries it controlled like Maynooth and the many in France?? The Church authorities spent their time interfering in the most private parts of decent people's lives and routinely bullying them at every turn. Within the Church itself the culture was 'see no evil..' and definitely keep schtum. This applied in every aspect of their doings. In schools they praised clerical colleagues as 'wonderful teachers', while knowing some of these characters were born savages who got results via the end of a cane. If a lay person was slightly critical of a clerics actions, then that layman (women were ignored anyway) was quietly sidelined. Happened lots of competent and concerned teachers in Ireland and worldwide.

OP

You said it yourself.

"The abuse was systemic, Mr Sauve said at a public, online presentation of the report, adding that the church had shown "deep, total and even cruel indifference for years," protecting itself rather than the victims"

There was a thread here yesterday about the Tuam scandal, kicked off by apologists.

Never admit, never apologise

The people in the church have absolutely 100% failed in their charge and should all be held responsible but that doesn't mean people want to abandon the religion itself.

What's really depressing about this story is that nobody can be the least bit surprised - and it's inevitable that the same happened everywhere else around the world the RCC had a significant presence.

Worse probably - the real screwballs from countries like Ireland got sent to "the missions" with little oversight over what they got up to.

Yet we still allow this unreformed, unreformable and corrupt to the core organisation to control 90% of the primary schools we, as taxpayers, pay for.

Those who have a choice are turning their backs on the church - there are now more non-religious marriages each year in Ireland than RCC, and baptism rates are falling now it's no longer a threat to getting your child a school place - but still, most parents have little or no choice but to send their child to an RCC controlled school. Many parents are then fearful of opting their child out of religion in case they are victimised. Enough of this nonsense. Get them out of OUR schools.

Twice Silenced: The Underreporting of Child Sexual Abuse in Orthodox Jewish Communities

David Katzenstein and Lisa Aronson Silver School of Social Work, New York University, New York, New York, USA; University of Massachusetts Amherst, Amherst, Massachusetts, USA

ABSTRACT

Child sexual abuse remains an underreported crime throughout the world, despite extensive research and resources dedicated both to improving investigative techniques and helping children disclose their experiences.

The discovery of rampant cover-ups within the Catholic Church has exposed some of the ways religious and cultural issues can impede reporting to authorities. This article examines specific factors that contribute to the underreporting of child sexual abuse within Orthodox Jewish communities. It also explores ways in which these communities have handled child sexual abuse reporting in the past and describes recent progress.

Implications are offered for CSA prevention, detection, and recovery in Orthodox Jewish communities as well as other minority religious groups.

ARTICLE HISTORY

Received 28 March 2017

Child sexual abuse; cultural

factors; Jews; religion;

underreporting

Child sexual abuse (CSA) exists to some extent in most communities (Finkelhor,2009; Pereda, Guilera, Forns, & Gómez-Benito, 2009) and is acknowledged as a vast worldwide public health problem with wide-ranging negative effects for victims, their families, and society as a whole (Putnam, 2003).

Recent research explores variations in the ways CSA appears and is handled in culturally and religiously distinct communities (e.g., Graham, Lanier, Johnson-Motoyama, 2016;Tishelman & Fontes, 2017).

Although research is limited, CSA appears to be as prevalent in Orthodox Jewish communities as elsewhere (Yehuda, Friedman, Rosenbaum, Labinsky, & Schmeidler, 2007), despite strict and clear guidelines about sexually (in)appropriate relationships. Some rabbis have called CSA a “matter of life and death” because of its far-reaching harm (Horowitz, 2012; Schere, 2016)."

Here in Ireland, We have already imported Religions with a proven track record of having scant regard for human rights. They are certainly not the kind to report CSA openly. It is something that would be dealt with internally. It would certainly never makes it to the media.

Also, what might be considered CSA in a Western society may be perfectly acceptable in another belief system : "underage", forced marriages, female genital mutilation

While abuse of minors is unacceptable in any shape of form, it is wrong to make the Catholic church the sole whipping boy.

CSA is not confined to the RCC

Nobody said it was confined to the RCC.

I was wondering how long it would take for the deflectors to turn up

To be fair, he did say/query that the Buddists/Jews/Muslims don’t seem to have that problem? They obviously do, power corrupts everywhere and anywhere, and many such things get either covered up far and wide, or even expressly condoned, with just as much vigour as the cover ups in the RCC (of which I’m no fan, either). I mean the mere fact that CSA in some cultures would go under the general heading of “marriage”; what is more “institutionally condoned CSA” than that?

Alzheimer's is too good for the paedos and their enablers and collaborators.

The issue is not why they did it, but whether they did it. The OP complains that . . .

"What I don't understand is why the Roman Catholic organisation is not investigating itself? It has known for decades that it was a haven for pedophiles and child abuse. The relevant state bodies always seem to be the ones uncovering the truth. Surely the church themselves need to instigate investigations across the world and report on their crimes against children."

. . . while linking to a newspaper report about a major investigation instigated, not by the "relevant state bodies", but by the church.