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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,095 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Can someone clear this up for me, I always thought Hutch was anti drugs, did the rest of his gang just go that way?



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Picolo


    I know loads of lads who are anti drugs but say it is ok to sell green



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,095 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I mean ya like if he's just selling green, he not in the same league as the lads selling brown.



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Picolo


    Bomber case now pushed back to December NCA HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD TO THEM

    KAVANAGH CASE: Sentence delayed again after Gary Vickery no show despite judge's warning


    A MAN who flew to the Canary Islands after being given unconditional bail at the start of the an international drug smuggling prosecution could face extradition after he failed to turn up in court, despite a stark warning from the judge to attend. Gary Vickery, 38, (above from Facebook) is still to be sentenced more than 14 months after he pleaded guilty at Ipswich Crown Court via remote link in July 2020 to conspiring to import class A and B drugs, and money laundering.

    He has been living on Lanzarote ever since while the case has been dogged by delays. Vickery was due to appear in person at Ipswich Crown Court on Monday, September 27, for a pre-sentence hearing, but the court said he failed to appear despite being given stark warnings to attend by Judge Martyn Levett at the previous hearing. The case was delayed by at least another two months and Vickery could now face extradition proceedings if the CPS honours a pledge made at the previous hearing in early September that "extradition proceedings would commence." Vickery, originally from Shirley, West Midlands, has been living in a villa in the village of Macher, on Lanzarote.


    Judge Levett said at an earlier hearing the case has been dogged by "significant problems with people coming from abroad" due to the bail situation and coronavirus travel restrictions. Co-defendants Daniel Canning, 42, (above left) and Thomas "Bomber" Kavanagh, 53, (above middle) pleaded guilty to the same offences at the same time, while the former also admitted possessing a firearm and ammunition.

    They are both remanded in custody and also still to be sentenced. The prosecution concerns 292 kilos of cocaine and 600 to 800 kilos of cannabis with a combined street value of more than £38 million. Although, in their basis of plea statements, still to be finalised with the prosecution, the three claim the amount of cocaine involved was much lower at 30 kilos. According to the National Crime Agency (NCA), the three are alleged associates of the Kinahan Cartel, an alleged major international drug smuggling network that originated in Ireland with bases in the UK, Spain and Dubai.


    But, despite the gravity of the charges and their alleged international connections, Vickery and Canning were given unconditional bail from the outset of the case with neither the CPS nor NCA pushing for any conditions or a remand into custody. Until the no show, Vickery (above relaxing on Lanzarote) had attended all earlier hearings of the case remotely via video link.

    However, he did not appear remotely on September 27. Warrants for the arrest of Vickery and Canning were issued in July after they failed to show at an earlier hearing amid claims they each wanted to be double vaccinated before travelling.

    No further warrant was issued in respect of Vickery at latest hearing.

    A court official said: "Mr Vickery did not attend this hearing nor was he on a link.

    "At this hearing no arrest warrant was issued."

    Vickery blamed his last non appearance on September 3 on being unable to book a PCR test to be taken upon arrival in the UK from Lanzarote. Judge Levett (below) said at the time: "I order your return and surrender (by September 27) and if you are not here extradition proceedings will continue and I will deal with the matter by way of breaches consecutive to the main offences


    "If you fail to attend it will be another breach and contempt of court for which a sentence two years can be imposed. Do you understand?" Prosecuting, Reil Karmy-Jones told the hearing last month steps were "in hand for extradition proceedings to commence."

    The court service has refused to say why unconditional bail was given, despite the seriousness of the charges, and the NCA will not say why it did not request the CPS to argue for conditions or custody. Ms Karmy-Jones said at an earlier hearing the prosecution made no representations about bail and the CPS has since claimed the pair did not meet "the threshold for custody." However, the CPS bail guidelines and the Bail Act say links to other jurisdictions and associates and the seriousness of the offence and length of likely sentence can all be taken into account. After another blunder in August, the NCA launched a review after Canning, from Dublin, was able to get through customs unchallenged at Stansted Airport before getting a taxi to court, despite the arrest warrant.

    He later turned up at court, when the warrant was withdrawn, and is now remanded in Chelmsford Prison ahead of sentence. An NCA spokeswoman said: "A review of how this happened is underway so we won’t be commenting any further at this stage." Kavangh, from Tamworth, is in custody after being jailed in 2019 to a three-year sentence for possessing a stun gun disguised as a torch, which was discovered during a raid on his mansion as part of the same investigation into the cartel. The case was adjourned until December. A CPS spokesman said: "We’re not able to comment on this at this stage."

    We contacted Nigel Power, barrister for Vickery for the case, to allow him to comment, but he did not respond.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Robbie_Crosby


    boom, drogheda is

    about to blow up in

    the papers again

    really soon

    silly silly boy



  • Registered Users Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Eyes1




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭benny79




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭passatman86




  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Bootlick9




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Cellmate can only type three words at a time...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭Picolo


    all looks a bit fishy, is the bounty on his head to shut him up and keep him away from court, as to not expose some very dodgy stuff, the man was walking around lanzarote drinking in same bars as bombers crew, yet nothing happened out there, now suddenly he is wanted dead, what is there to be hidden.



  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Thesiger


    Nah it’s just to be enjoyed with a cup of tea.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Bootlick9


    Paddy power better be checking them dodgy bets for the fight, surprise time



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls




  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Bootlick9


    Wilder was supposed to win on points, but Fury messed that plan up, I got my winnings



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Will you stop. Wilder only chance was a KO, and a KO early (always 1 punch dangerous though). Wilder on points would have been the surprise outcome. What odds you get on fury ko 😃?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭john boye


    How would wilder win on points? It's almost impossible given his style.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Exactly. He's not a points fighter. You could argue a lot of his wins he was behind on the cards until the KOs. He has one points win out of 42 fights 😃

    I wonder what odds bootlick got Fury at, when I checked there was no value there.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭john boye




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls




  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Bootlick9


    200 hoops richer today, ya can go back to trying to wreck this forum now



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    After betting what? 500?

    He was 4/11 with paddy power.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭john boye


    Can you explain to me how wilder was supposed to win on points?

    Not sure how I'm trying to wreck this forum? I'm not the one making up nonsense about a boxing fight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭MarkEadie


    Several knockdowns like he did in the first and third fights. He was only down by 2,3 and 4 points on the cards going into the 11th last night. A knockdown in each round and he could have won on points. He had Fury almost dead to rites in the 12th of the first fight so clearly he carries his power late. It's unlikely but not like it's some impossible thing. He showed the heart of a lion in there but Fury was too good.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    He said wilder was supposed to win on points. No he wasn't, whilst possible, it was the most unlikely outcome.

    He talking of dodgy bets, like he's 'in the know,' that wilder was to win on points, then lumps on the actual favourite to win 😂

    There was nothing dodgy about that fight this morning, a good fight between two hard men.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭john boye


    In the method of victory market, fury to win by ko was favourite at 10/11. To prove how ridiculous bootlicks claim is, wilder to win on points was 16/1!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Maybe bootlick doesn't understand how betting odds work or how fights might be fixed.

    Now I'm not an expert on fixing fights in boxing but to fix a fight for a boxer to win on points you would generally need to

    1. Get at least 2 judges to fix the score and hope the referee doesn't stop the fight which could be suspicious if it's one sided and the other judge and everyone else says the other guy won.

    Or

    2. Get the loser to not do enough to win but do enough not to be stopped. This would be a risky strategy without having the ref onside.

    A TKO on the other hand you only need the loser to take a fall and stay down. You could even arrange it for particular rounds.

    Now in this case it seems like the favourite won by TKO as expected despite being down twice himself. It doesn't look like any fixing going on there and definitely not fixing based on points for Wilder. If you wanted a boxer to lose on points you wouldn't want them to need to lose the last 2 rounds 10-8.



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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,161 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    If only we had a dedicated Boxing forum....

    Now back to the topic



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