La Palma, Canary Islands - Volcano Thread

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 1:10am

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Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 1:38am

Still going strong. An extraordinary amount of lava heading...somewhere

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 1:47am

I can see burning now, bottom of screen here - looks like it will come through the small ridge at the bottom here shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtpEE276x_Y&ab_channel=afarTV

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 5:15am

Now the side of the cliff on this vent looks like it's about to collapse.

KAGY · 11-10-2021 8:28am

For those poor people who lost their homes and lands, do they even still hold title to the site and farm?

screamer · 11-10-2021 8:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003127#Comment_118003127

Don’t think it matters buried under thousands of tonnes of rock, it’s pretty useless anyway

screamer · 11-10-2021 9:00am

With the main explosive activity moved to the back of the cone, the main lava channel is fed less and cooling. The cone is also closing in more, which will build pressure and more lava for another collapse

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 12:14pm

Update this morning on the potential significance of the earthquakes in recent days on volcanodiscovery.com website.

Full article here https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/la-palma/news/144005/La-Palma-volcano-eruption-update-high-lava-effusion-rates-new-lava-arm-at-the-sea-speculation-about-.html

The good news, according to them, is that the quakes remain at more or less similar depths. Not really getting shallower as of yet although some have, far from swarming less than 10km depth.

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 8:56pm

Mountain shrouded in cloud tonight so not as good a show to see. Lava is a lot less viscous and sticky than recent days (Prob due to the like of structural turmoil today I guess) Flying along.

Mentioned the lightning last couple of nights...

https://twitter.com/involcan/status/1447571658911408130

EDIT: Just saw big flash of lightning on the TV La Palma stream

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 11:17pm

Multiple open vents now and ongoing lightning best seen here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATZY4wntQ0g&ab_channel=TVLaPalma

You'll have to be a little patient for the lightning but it's worth it :)

Gaoth Laidir · 11-10-2021 11:29pm

A great video showing how La Palma formed in stages.

https://youtu.be/BtFl8UIWu0s

Kermit.de.frog · 11-10-2021 11:37pm

Lightning more frequent now.

sunbabe08 · 12-10-2021 12:10am

omg that was my first time seeing lightening on the live stream.

Kermit.de.frog · 12-10-2021 12:14am

New vents are pretty active now. Good show tonight. Love the lightning.

This side of the mountain starting to do it's shape shifting much faster again. Might be changes soon, a new channel or lava vent maybe?

highdef · 12-10-2021 1:14am

Watched the live stream for a minute or two but saw no lightning so gave up. More interested in the thunder. Is it loud and is it similar to thunder from a regular thunderstorm?

Kermit.de.frog · 12-10-2021 1:33am

Not much thunder audible, drowned out by the noise of the fissures.

Getting wild tonight. Four vents open.

SouthWesterly · 12-10-2021 8:54am

Just watched the live feed. I'm amazed the birds are still around the area and singing

Kermit.de.frog · 12-10-2021 10:51am

The rooster is a handy alarm clock.

josip · 12-10-2021 12:11pm

What happened to those dogs that were on the roof a couple of days ago?

SouthWesterly · 12-10-2021 1:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008565#Comment_118008565

Probably became hot dogs

obi604 · 12-10-2021 5:54pm

how much new hectares of land has been formed now?

Kermit.de.frog · 12-10-2021 10:57pm

No major changes today. Main lava vent a little less ferocious than recent days. Other vents still open, still the after burners as another poster put it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATZY4wntQ0g&ab_channel=TVLaPalma

So far there has been 2,395 earthquakes in the region, many exceeding magnitude 3.5.

https://twitter.com/NaqNab/status/1447936736034705416

Kermit.de.frog · 13-10-2021 3:26am

Some changes now and continuous, frequent lightning. Bonus dust devil on the right?

lapalma12.jpg

speckle · 13-10-2021 2:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003127#Comment_118003127

I read elsewhere that a group regarding these issues has been set up. The short/medium/longterm issues have to be looked into..each household situation very different eg family with school going kids... retired couple/individual..holiday home..farmer...townland..rural..public buildings and bussinesses etc.

At the moment eg. over 200+ people are being put up in a hotel, a very small amount of houses are in the process in two estates are being bought..many are staying with friends/relatives/strangers or rental properties. There is also at least one shelter/processing area with food clothes etc.

People were told to bring their house/land deeds when evacuating or to get them when they went back to retrieve belongings in the hour long time windows they were given when the volcano was less active.

Without checking the map if I remember correctly from the 2 earlier eruptions this century.. especially the 70s.. eg that the new delta land became mainly banana plantations/commercial/industrial. And more of a mix of use were the lava streams were.

I dont know if the issue is more regulated since the last eruption (I presume so) but transperancy is needed especially with large sums of money involved from central government.

It will be a very complex planning situation balancing ,homes, land, industry and the natural habitat/wildlife. Let alone all the new infrastructure needed. And questions of health and safety...possible mineral deposits, tourism and whether some or what land should be added to nat. geo. park.

While many people may want to stay on or nearby as their roots are there, some may want to leave (elsewhere on island or off island temporary or permanent) due the trauma or even practical reasons like schooling or just being unable to start again due to age or health or lack of money/insurance or work options or even citzenship. Or the unlikely hood to obtain like for like land/house on such a small island.

https://morningexpress.in/whose-land-is-created-by-the-volcano-of-la-palma/

Ordinary people.. householders/small farmers must not miss out and should band together in a situation like this, get legal advise to make sure they do not miss out to those more powerful/wealthy/ or 'in the know'. It could be a very a long and tiring process.

Many landscapes for human inhabitation bring their own challenges ..but the island has been their home for many generations and I wish them well through these strenous times and tough decisions. They as a community have rose to challenge of their situation and are an inspiration to others.

speckle · 13-10-2021 2:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008565#Comment_118008565

Still alive yesterday..fed by donated drones.. they managed to identify both by the looks of it..will try post later..photos of both.. but only live video footage yesterday of one moving(other could be resting hopefully) fingers x'd.

harr · 13-10-2021 2:11pm

Possible new vent ?

Kermit.de.frog · 13-10-2021 4:00pm

It's a lot more intense today overall than it was yesterday and the explosive noises are particularly loud again.

I was actually wondering about that small smoke/ash/gas emission on the right as we look at it earlier but it doesn't seem to have done anything really. Was there the same way this morning.

Guess just wait and see.

Kermit.de.frog · 13-10-2021 4:44pm

Great drone footage from 6 am today of the current lava flow

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nUsriFrstig

Kermit.de.frog · 13-10-2021 8:22pm

I see new downstream off-shoot of the lava is now heading straight for a small local town. The inhabitants were evacuated yesterday. You can see the new branch in this shot bottom right branching in to the foreground tonight. Guess it's always a risk to change course but it also shows the amount of lava coming through what looks like a narrow channel immediately off the mountain - but it's a deep channel holding lots of lava by all accounts.

lapalma13.jpg

Just spotted another new branch a bit upstream from there too.

harr · 13-10-2021 9:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118016106#Comment_118016106

They were worried about this happening last week. I put a screenshot up of the hill they were hoping the flow wouldn’t go around it towards the town but unfortunately it now looks like it will enter the town ..

Kermit.de.frog · 13-10-2021 9:39pm

A huge part of the crater just collapsed. :o Hope someone provides a vid, that was pretty spectacular. All sorts of chaos in there now.

Kermit.de.frog · 13-10-2021 10:20pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v-BpHbU2Qo&ab_channel=TVLaPalma

Live footage here showing new large lava flow as a result of partial crater collapse and fires underway now. The set camera position seems to be down.