2021 NFL season - Week 5 thread

Packers win.

TD Chicago.

TD chargers.

And they just showed a picture of Barkleys ankle and it looks bad.

Only got to see one replay but it looked like Lance crossed the line a few minutes ago. It was called short and that decision was upheld.

Matt Nagy being forced to use a timeout between scoring a TD and kicking the extra point is so on-brand for his teams.

Because it's year 4 and this simple thing is still an issue most weeks. We constantly waste time outs on stupid stuff like late playcalls or the entire unit being late onto the field.

It just cost us big time when we got the ball back on our own 40 with 50 seconds left. If we had a timeout we could potentially have put another 3 on the board.

Ugly game in Vegas but delighted to win especially with our upcoming schedule. Wasn't expecting it.

It was the same for the eagles in Carolina earlier today. Neither the eagles or bears will win high style points but a win is a win in this league.

And 89 yards rushing so ended up with 291 yards of offense from Lance with 1 turn over. Definitely needs improvement but this team was not looking like it was getting play offs with Jimmy G and I am not sure Jimmy G gets 290 yards going vs a tough AZ front. Let the kid learn at game speed.

I feel like most of the kickers in the league got together for a massive bender last night and were hung over today. So many missed extra points and field goals.

You can't let him learn as a starter, he'll lose his confidence quickly and start second guessing his decisions. This is why you sit a rookie for a year if you have the opportunity.

QB's who've sat for a year include Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, for three years, and Phillip Rivers. Eli Manning started late in his first season. All those guys have had very successful careers.

Great start for the Bills, hold the Chiefs to a field goal on the opening drive of the game and then go down and Josh Allen rushes for a TD to take a 7-3 lead.

Bills had 52 rushing yards on that drive, the Chiefs have been awful against the run all season to this point.

The Bills are excellent on both side of the ball but FMD, how does Sorensen keep getting snaps over Thornhill? On both plays that he was beaten badly uyou can see Mathieu throwing his hands up in the air in the background. Misses too many tackles as well.

Great day of football overall, loved all the kicking dramas earlier.

And this one is done, a pick 6 off Hill's hands. And CEH is injured. The Chiefs look so average on both sides of the ball this season and it's the Chargers' division now.

Josh Allen has been brilliant, great to watch.

Bills have been very impressive so far this season, sadly.

Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Ryan, Stafford, Big Ben, Peyton, Cam Newton, Wilson all started pretty early in their first season or from game 1. You can do it both ways and you absolutely can have someone learn as a starter. Either way starting will be a new game from practice. The game has also changed and QBs are coming out more and more ready for the pros. The only one in the last 15 years on your list is Mahomes (though you could happily add Lamar).

Fair points and the schedule gets a bit easier now but Mahomes already has as many interceptions this season as he did in 2020 and they've struggled to get Hill open against any good defense. Maybe Josh Gordon can get into a groove and I was surprised he was only targeted once for 11 yards (I had a 20/1 multi bet on the game and needed him to get over 14.5 yards for it to come in 😭).

We're only 5 games in but I definitely think the Chargers will win the AFC West comfortably and that horrible defense means the Chiefs won't come anywhere near to making a run in the playoffs.

Would it be fair to say the Chiefs haven’t exactly helped themselves in terms of team building since the emergence of Mahomes? Hill and Kelce were already there and I can’t think of a single impact player that they have drafted on either side of the ball since. Drafting Mahomes will give Veach a lot of slack naturally, but I don’t think he has covered himself in glory since, and perhaps the cracks are starting to show. Maybe I’m being a bit harsh IDK

They still have the talent to find some form and make a run later on but I’d agree that you’d have to strongly favour the Chargers for the division at this stage, and the Bills are probably going to get the #1 seed so they will have a much more difficult path in January than what they are used to

In pre-season I would have leaned towards sitting Lance for similar reasons to why I wanted Trubisky to sit in 2017: Small school QB with limited experience starting. No need to rush him. But seeing him on the field now the Niners can clearly move the ball with him. He's not getting beat up and while he'll have his rookie moments he's not "seeing ghosts" as a certain QB once said. I think he's capable of starting and it benefitting him more than hurting him.

Saying that, going with Lance this early when you really don't have to (Jimmy G is a capable QB unlike Mike Glennon in 2017) would be a big call for Shanahan to make after the bye so I think he'll go back to Jimmy G for a month or two. If he went with Lance now and he started struggling big time then benching him to protect him would be a confidence destroyer.

Fields is doing the same. He took a huge hit to the ribs yesterday (exactly like the one in the game against Clemson in Jan) despite saying he wouldn't be attempting that spin move after what happened previously. Think it's a case of them trying to impress and doing too much.