Metroid Dread

08-10-2021 3:51pm

Reserved a copy in Argos. I think even €47 is a lot to ask for a game like this.

Star Lord · 08-10-2021 4:18pm

'for a game like this'??

Really?

It's a highly reviewed entry in a series of highly acclaimed games... Why wouldn't it be 'full price'?

SuperBowserWorld · 08-10-2021 4:23pm

Yes, it's expensive at 60 quid. I think the Argos price is ok. 45 quid ish. But it's out of stock now. I'd say it'll drop to that price in Amazon etc soon, but no further.

But I'd rather play this than a million GTA5 s or Halo infinites or ...

Hoping it's great!

Play it. Play it again. Pass it into your kids ... I

If you don't like it sell it for probably much the same price in CEX.

Suckit · 08-10-2021 4:26pm

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pixelburp · 08-10-2021 4:36pm

Digital Foundry have a video up about Dread; sounds like if nothing else, the game's a technical success (the Foundry folks are enthused about the game itself too)

https://youtu.be/8KrzJo15oSU

sligeach · 08-10-2021 5:22pm

Did Argos have much stock? They're sold out nationwide. You can't pre-order with Argos before a product is available, so to sell out in less than a day, is a good sign. Though not for me. I'll be saving it for Christmas time, so hopefully they get more stock in shortly. Though I missed it, I'm glad now I didn't order it for €60 on Smyths.

08-10-2021 5:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117993927#Comment_117993927

if the greatest version of Tetris was released it would be a highly reviewed entry in a highly acclaimed series, but i still wouldn’t pay €60 quid for it

Metroidvania games are usually launched around the 20-30 mark (I think) eg Ori, Bloodstained, Axiom Verge, Hollow Knight. Okay I’ll pay a premium since it’s not just Metroidvania but literally Metroid, but i think €60 is very expensive. Look at it like this, it’s likely the same price as they’ll charge for Prime 4, which will have been much more expensive to develop.

eggy81 · 08-10-2021 5:46pm

Just picked it up in Argos portlaoise. Reserved it this morning

Suckit · 08-10-2021 7:59pm

Already saw a guide posted about an hour and a half ago : Metroid Dread Boss Guide: How To Beat Samus’ 10 Monstrous Foes

😤🤬

Didn't click it but that's annoying

sligeach · 09-10-2021 11:34am

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1446589347642454024

https://twitter.com/NintendoNYC/status/1446425451099049998

Nintendo really are spoiling this game. Their latest Tweet is about a returning move, couldn't avoid it. I would have guessed it was in the game, but didn't want to see a video of it in action automatically playing.

SuperBowserWorld · 09-10-2021 12:50pm

It's now or never for Metroid, so Nintendo need to sell the **** out of it. Switch is the best vehicle they could possibly have for this.

evad_lhorg · 09-10-2021 2:52pm

My Argos order is in today. Only ordered yesterday. Can’t believe someone said 46 quid is expensive for a game like this. Because it’s side scrolling?

McFly85 · 09-10-2021 3:51pm

A couple of hours in, and it’s fantastic. Platforming and combat just feel right, and the map is something that requires proper exploration.

The Emmi sections are great too, some moments feeling properly tense! Looking forward to getting back at it this evening.

CiDeRmAn · 09-10-2021 6:34pm

I am really enjoying it so far.

The visuals remind me of Inside, the art style in the backgrounds, very nice indeed.

The gameplay, it works very well on the Switch, I haven't tried it docked as yet.

I've beaten the first boss and it was challenging, as I am rubbish at games, but a nice sense of satisfaction nevertheless.

Well done Nintendo!

And, yes, it is absolutely worth the 60 I spent on it, given some of the cookie cutter drivel that demands that sort of spend on every platform, including Switch.

09-10-2021 7:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117994215#Comment_117994215

Well coincidentally the greatest ever version of Tetris has just launched on Switch

It's €30 currently

https://eshop-prices.com/games/7577-tetris-effect-connected

09-10-2021 7:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998431#Comment_117998431

Pfff tetris achieved perfection in 1989 on gameboy

in fairness effect sounds excellent but I wouldn’t pay 30 for tetris

09-10-2021 7:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998456#Comment_117998456

there are many single-player modes as well as innovative online and local co-op and vs modes

amazing visuals and music also

many more hours of entertainment that Dread really for €30 (price goes up in a couple of weeks)

Dread looks excellent for sure but it is not super-long at 12 hours or so

Something like Hollow Knight is amazing value - hundreds of hours if you want it.

09-10-2021 7:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117997497#Comment_117997497

yes because it’s cheaper to develop than say, Far Cry or Demon’s Souls. Indie devs with a lot less money and resources produce similar stuff and don’t charge €60 for it.

A simple €5 game made by a solo dev on your phone might be a far better, more enjoyable game than the latest big budget €70 title on a console, but that doesn’t mean I’d consider €70 to have been a fair price for the phone game, no matter how good a game it is.

09-10-2021 7:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998469#Comment_117998469

Tbh I’d except Effects to be heavily discounted in a sale eventually, so it’s the sort of thing I’d pick up then (unlike Dread, which will probably never be less than 46 so I might as well get it for that.)

hollow knight was great

09-10-2021 7:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998483#Comment_117998483

Tetris Effect has never been highly discounted on Playstation over 3 years so for sure it won't on switch I would say

10-10-2021 12:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117998497#Comment_117998497

I just read you can’t fully turn off all the flashy effects if you just want to focus on your high score, which means it’s probably not the definitive version of tetris for me

10-10-2021 12:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118000484#Comment_118000484

https://www.polygon.com/guides/2018/11/12/18087802/how-to-make-tetris-effect-like-traditional-tetris

10-10-2021 12:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118000507#Comment_118000507

“Despite what you change, some stage effects will still bleed on top of your gameplay.”

10-10-2021 1:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118000514#Comment_118000514

"I wouldn't pay 60 for the best reviewed version of Tetris"

"Actually I wouldn't pay 30 for the best version of Tetris"

"Something else is wrong with it too"

😂

10-10-2021 1:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118000609#Comment_118000609

Well yeah, I will mostly just want to play standard single player endless Tetris without distracting effects that obscure the play area, so if a €30 version of tetris with all these bells and whistles can’t deliver that…

hello to all the metroid fans enjoying this riveting tetris debate.

pixelburp · 10-10-2021 1:54pm

What's most rivetting is this shock or debate as to Nintendo games costing what they do. Whilst there are questions to be had about their consistent lack of scaling on their own range, it's arguably not here, or a debate with any degree of likely answer. Nintendo do as they please, they always will, and a consistent thing their pricy games have in their favour is the invariable polish and quality they bring.

Star Lord · 10-10-2021 2:38pm

I'd argue that the amount of planning and iterating required for the level of detail, overlap and deliberate allowances for sequence breaking required in a Metroid game means that they're most likely just as expensive to create and produce as a Far Cry or Dark Souls. Especially with the level of polish on display in Dread.

The outdoor environments in a Far Cry for example are most likely just built on top of/around randomly generated terrain, and indoor areas are as basic as they come.

10-10-2021 5:01pm

Well it's better value than the Skyward Sword reissue (especially considering the extra kick-in-the teeth of the Loftwing Amibo).

SuperBowserWorld · 10-10-2021 6:54pm

Playing Samus Returns to scratch that Metroid itch. Never got far the last time I played. Going to finish the main game this time before Metroid Dread.

CiDeRmAn · 10-10-2021 9:51pm

And so the cycle continues...

1) Switch games are too expensive and expensive Switch games are sh1te

2) Here's an example great cheap Switch games.

3) But I want AAA games, on the Switch, and cheap.

4) Here's a selection of cheap AAA games for the Switch....

5) Now I want AAA games on the Switch... made by Nintendo, and cheap, they are never on sale!!

6) Here's the latest Switch sale, look at the 1st party games discounted...

7) I hate this forum full of haters that won't let me hate...

And so on...

10-10-2021 10:38pm

Dread is an excellent game for sure

but the production values on something like Ori, Will of The Wisps are as good or very close as that has gone for €15

it's part of the debate

it's a forum

evad_lhorg · 11-10-2021 9:49am

Played about 4 hours yesterday. I've been killed so many times by those EMMI pricks. It's definitely tougher than a good few Metroid games but saying that there is a lack of bosses or variety so far. Hopefully that changes.

blockfighter · 11-10-2021 9:56am

Hoping Gamestop gets their stock in today. Stupid Brexit customs issues.

11-10-2021 11:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118001715#Comment_118001715

i liked that game but countering was way overused

CiDeRmAn · 11-10-2021 11:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118002591#Comment_118002591

Oh, I know it's a forum.

I've been a user and a mod here for some time.

People do seem to think that Nintendo games are simpler than PS/Xbox titles and so should be cheaper.

And, in the area of the Indie titles, like Ori, they are roughly on par with their console cousins.

1st party, AAA releases from the large developers, they cost around the €60 mark.

Remember too that AAA and 1st party releases on the PS/Xbox are often a lot more than €60.

Again, this is a cycle of comment on Nintendo pricing, and it's fine, but it's also fine to point it out

11-10-2021 11:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003789#Comment_118003789

AAA isn’t a very meaningful term, but basically denotes big budget games released by major publishers (who else could afford to release a big budget game?)

Contrary to what some posters think, the budget for Dread just would not be in same ballpark as a Far Cry, which has far more staff—including a load of voice talent, and even a big name actor who will not have been cheap— and is much more complex technically.

So to the extent that AAA means anything, I don’t consider Dread AAA. But hey, I’ll pick up Dread for 47, because that’s as cheap as it will ever be (ironically, I’ll probably pay 20 quid for Far Cry in a year or two).

11-10-2021 4:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118003789#Comment_118003789

But in this case an external developer Mercury Steam did the work on Metroid Dread

Ori's developer Moon Studios would be very comparable to Mercury Steam as a studio

As as said the production values of Ori (especially the 2nd game - Will of the Wisps) are excellent - match those of Dread.

And as Metroid Dread was published by Nintendo, Ori was published by Xbox Game Studios.

So all in all, very valid direct comparison indeed.

Even their play-length is almost the same too!

Grassey · 12-10-2021 11:50am

The alternative way to beat

Kraid

is class.

Wish I'd known it before I resorted to retreating to bulk up more energy tanks and missiles! 🤣

Star Lord · 12-10-2021 12:15pm

Alternate way... 🤔

Probably best to spoiler tag what that is though!

[Edit]

Just read what it is... Hah!

SuperBowserWorld · 12-10-2021 3:04pm

How are the controls in the game? You need to be a spider hunched over the DS for Samus Returns. Looking forward to playing this on the couch + TV.

Suckit · 12-10-2021 3:07pm

Did anyone get theirs from Gamestop yet after not being available on Friday? I haven't heard anything yet...

tbahh · 12-10-2021 3:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118009495#Comment_118009495

I called them and they said it might be in tomorrow but that they would call me back. It was delayed due to "customs" but I'm not sure if I really believe it. They apparently received the Special editions no problem, not the regular one. I had a look on their website and they are now selling the standard edition again. Surely they could send these onto those still waiting on their pre-orders but they won't. So it looks like someone who orders the game off their website might get their copy before someone who had pre-ordered the item a couple of weeks back.

SuperBowserWorld · 12-10-2021 3:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118009495#Comment_118009495

Website says available for home delivery but not store pick up.

Mind you, they've also got Metroid Prime 4 available for pre order. 😂

sligeach · 12-10-2021 3:30pm

I was in Argos today and you can order a copy of Metroid Dread for collection on Wednesday. It's a good price at €47 and is a direct conversion of £40. Normally there's a bit of inflation added for Irish customers.

tbahh · 12-10-2021 3:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118009552#Comment_118009552

Any normal company would ensure that these copies are sent out to those who had pre-ordered them. But not GameStop. As far as they are concerned, those who pre-ordered can wait as GS has already received the money from their pre-orders and they can now get even more money from those wanting to buy right now on their website. :)

SuperBowserWorld · 12-10-2021 3:42pm

I did get Ori and Will of the Wisps in Gamestop for 10 quid for Xbox new.

Also, they let me trade in an old GREY switch for a funky new NEON switch for 30 quid.

So, they are not all bad.

tbahh · 12-10-2021 4:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118009630#Comment_118009630

The actual stores themselves are grand. And you do get a good offer every once in a while. That €30 was a bargain compared to their one for the new OLED edition - if I'm correct, they want(ed) a normal Switch, two select games and to top it all off €65 for it, which is a bit of a rip-off.

CiDeRmAn · 12-10-2021 5:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118008455#Comment_118008455

I'm currently on him...

What a pain in the ass.

I tried the alternative method but didn't have the patience for the jump

skerry · 12-10-2021 6:01pm

Still waiting on Gamestop to get this in. How is it Smyths and Argos have zero issues but Gamestop can't seem to get a shipment past customs

Grassey · 12-10-2021 7:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118010126#Comment_118010126

It gets worse!

Some of the later ones require much nimble fingers!

Metroid Dread

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