Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Maybe some.

Good thing it's not happening then.

Isn't the development of the anti virals more of game changer than the vaccines at the moment ... hopefully these get approved and into hospitals ...open up society , only test in a hospital setting and treat the hospitalised cases...game over

We go up past 100 in ICU everything else will stop .

Everything will be affected if hospital cases keep going up as it is more difficult to treat and manage Covid cases and keep regular services going at the same time .

You know this well at this stage . No point presenting information if you are being disingenuous.

I am not sure why you are assuming that this is not an issue or going to be an issue.

This is causing alarm , very much so . Dr Catherine Motherway and other senior consultants have already been stating as much over the last week .

It doesn't matter to me who these patients are , vaccinated or unvaccinated they are still sick people who need looking after . Any 'let it rip ' in the community if unvaccinated inevitably ends up at our hospital door a few weeks later and everyone knows this is the worst possible time of the year for beds to be taken up by a surge of infected patients, Covid , more so .

We don't know @[Deleted User] if this is a waning phenomenon.

I don't think so but those who have been vaccinated longest are the most at risk populations and healthcare workers are definitely at higher risk if there is any waning having been vaccinated early on .

It strikes me that this is a bad time to be gambling with rising cases , hospitalisations and whether those at risk should be given boosters or not .

Most people don’t seem to care that nightclubs are shut and pubs have to close early. I don’t think there would be much backlash

Agree with this and your previous post about long term Covid care facilities.

The Mater has had to stop construction and go back to planning because emergency planning for their separate new building which was intended for just that purpose has run out !

The problem with separate facilities is the same old problem , lack of staff . Because to continue regular care as well as Covid requires a lot of extra highly trained and experienced staff . And not just nurses, all pathways of care . Physios, laboratory staff , radiographers , doctors , anaesthetists and all separate services . Very costly to run on a permanent basis. And nothing can be shared or mixed without endless delays .

That is why the private system would have been ideal, if it was used , as all those facilities were there , for elective care anyway .

If this becomes endemic as is believed it will , the healthcare staff will have to have to be kept up to date with immunisations , and permanent extra bed and ICU space will have to inbuilt in to the system , so that every time there is an increase in infections they can be isolated and treated away from the regular hospital and patients.

Saying this is like any other infection , is true , if you are young and healthy and, crucially , vaccinated , but not otherwise.

It is too much of a risk to the general population of most hospitals, both patients and staff to not keep the care separate .

Have you?

And I know personally of two who've taken it, so our anecdotes hold about the same level of weight (none)

You want hospitals to make private medical information public?

And those without private health insurance?

It wasn't a question, it was another weird attack on healthcare workers that has become your M.O around here, have you nothing better to be doing?

He said plans are to reopen but it would depend on numbers in the next few days and the advice of Nephet . What if numbers continue to rise in the next few days ? I have no idea if they will or won’t but what if they do ? For what it’s worth I would be confident of the 22nd going ahead but it’s strange to call that a positive interview . Watery stuff from Leo .

So now it seems there might be some NPHET concern. NPHET meeting about 22nd is next Monday anyway.

"There may be a perception among some members of the public that the pandemic is over"

Well on 22nd October all restrictions are gone so surely that perception is correct?

Prob still half pissed from the Budget dinner