Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

No, the pinch point is the added pressure on an already stretched service , especially by unvaccinated .

They are desperately trying to encourage that last bunch to get vaccinated , that's it really . And more staff !

There is no agenda other than that .

No numbers for last night's HSE report yet either but definitely looks like UHL has big issues along with Tallaght

Are you ignoring my post , and making a different point to the one we were discussing?

They were and they did ...

That was when most of our population were not vaccinated . Would have been many more inhospital very sick if we had not maintained some restrictions during the summer . Do you still deny that ?

Do you still not recognise that vaccinations here made the difference ?

That is why restrictions are of no further use ,except to those unvaccinated , but as they won't want them , should we restrict everybody else at this stage to protect that minority?

I don't think so. But they will still put pressure on the health services , those that get seriously ill.

But that is an unfixable situation except they all get a change of heart and get jabbed, and continuing restrictions will not make any difference at this stage , unlike earlier in the Summer .

Heard 2066 cases quoted by Fergal Bowers on RTE Radio One.

Willing to bet that all those you know getting breakthrough infections , or at least most of them if no underlying conditions , are mild . The more seriously ill who need ICU are mainly unvaccinated .

There are many sick in Covid wards who because of their comorbidities would have been in ICU or worse were it not for being vaccinated

I agree with the rest of your post though .

There are reports of outbreaks in hospitals among staff and patients every few weeks or months, its been a regular thing throughout the pandemic in this country.

To try and say that hospital acquired infections are not a thing at this stage in the pandemic is head in the sand stuff. Its happening all around us, its undeniable at this stage.

There has been much debate over COVID(with/from) deaths. Apparently Russia's population has fallen by nearly 1m as a direct result of it.

I never said it wasn't . Jeez some people don't know how to read a post from start to finish . I said it could be outbreaks AS WELL but outbreaks do not make up a 20% increase . Those numbers are way more than one outbreak although of course some hospitals definitely do have some transmission in house .

But less and less since vaccinations , and community transmission decreased .

It is not widespread though generally and accounts for a minority of hospital cases at present , unless there has been a major outbreak somewhere that we don't know yet .

What is head in the sand is saying " Ah yes , all hospital transmission " .

Maybe an increased risk, but covid is still killing elderly people with underlying conditions irrespective of vaccine status...from the HSE data only 50 unvaccinated people out of a total 301 people have died since April...the other 251 people were either fully vaccinated or partially vaccinated..the HSE are insisting on providing this back to April the first , when most people were either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated ...I would love to see this data on a monthly basis ...

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/vaccinationstatusweeklyreports/

Key points  Between April 1st and September 25th 2021 • 301 persons with a laboratory confirmed COVID-19 infection, were notified to the Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) as died due to COVID-19. • 153/301 (50.8%) deaths were notified in persons who were not vaccinated or not registered as vaccinated on Ireland’s national COVID-19 immunisation system (COVAX). • 148/301 (49.2%) deaths were notified in persons who had received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine prior to death. • 103/301 (34.2%) of the notified deaths had an epidemiological date1 14 days or more after receiving all recommended doses of vaccine and are considered as vaccine breakthrough infections 

300,000 adults unvaccinated and a further 70,000 people on one jab according to Glynn, all of it having a disproportionate effect on cases in hospital.

Mainly immunocompromised ( those that died and were vaccinated ) it has been said by HSE and consultants .

Hence the urgency to give these people another dose .

Just a hypothesis.....if 100 % of the population was vaccinated in the next four weeks I suggest the health system would be still be under pressure / at breaking point with breakthrough cases ...the vilification of the hold outs is cynical in my opinion ...and it's a dangerous game. I thought we frown upon the singling out of people, for any choice they make in life ... Just looking at the data there ...what is going on in Waterford ...99.7 per cent vaccinated and still the highest incident rate in the country ....I fully understand that intercounty travel/work/socialising occurs but the surrounding counties are vastly lower

I agree that reaching 100% vaccination wouldn't make much difference but 99.7% vaccinated in Waterford?? Do you have a source for that? That's extremely unlikely to be true.

And are the goalposts moving once again!! Round and round we fûcking go!! The people that don’t want the vaccine can wazz off!!!

let me get in With my life!! This is absolutely abhorrent at this stage!

the entertainment industry and the rest of us deserve more then this kite flying malarkey, it’s not good for people’s well being!