Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

You're probably not far off the mark with this, although I still think they'll just go ahead as planned and fudge it with the caveat that it'll be reviewed.

From what I've read some countries are bringing in a rule that ties the percentage of ICU occupancy with the type of cert required. ie at the moment vaccinated, recovered or negative test is required to enter, but if ICU reaches x%, it reverts to vaccinated or recovered, if it increases again to y% it becomes vaccinated only. Whether its right or wrong, at least its a metric.

Despite the bleating about Denmark, Denmark, Denmark, lots of European countries are not fully back to normal yet and are keeping the requirement for a cert/masks during the winter. With 90% vaccination here, nearly everyone has one anyway so it doesn't much matter, or its a pointless exercise, depending on which way you look at it.

You will be more than welcome to quote me, I helpfully made some very specific predictions about how I thought things would go. Here is one from August for example:

"I posted weeks/months ago that a plausible timeline was: Delay reopening until schools return and cases rise - delay again until November and then use the "remember last christmas" concern to keep restrictions - then surf the flu season wave into 2022.

People are crying that we are never happy but how can they not see that we are right bang on track for that timeline! They are going to give a "reopening plan" that doesn't take full effect for another 2 months, right at the end of October!

And if come the time it all gets pushed out again they will pretend none of this was said."

We continue to be right on track. I believe that rather than fully reopening on the 22nd, instead there will be a reopening with a bunch of caveats, things like vaccine passports remaining, certain attendance limits, social distancing in various areas etc etc. That is not what was promised but people will accept it and say, they aren't really restrictions, they don't affect us so whats the problem?" Then as we get into december the "remember last christmas" narrative aligned with rising cases and reports of struggling hospitals will see further restrictions discussed.

Those are my opinions and unlike others I will happily say so if they turn out to be wrong.

Fair points , I'd just say as someone with a direct connection to the states and someone who watches US Media regularly, it has to be said the Anti Vaccine Lobby and in particular media are extraordinarily and dare I say dangerously extreme, almost to the point of scary to be honest, their views go way beyond Vaccine hesitation and some quite astonishing and vile campaigns afoot.

Please. Show me the evidence where I have "pissed all over anybody who questioned if the 22nd was actually legitimate". My comment above was in relation to posters talking about a lockdown. Level 5, all locked away in our homes, with everything shut. I stand by my comments that we will not be returning to that.

So again, I ask, show me where "I sneer and jibe constantly at people who try to make logical points". Because talking about a Level 5 lockdown again is far from logical.

I wouldn't trust this Government to stick to their promises. Leo is already promoting it for the winter..

Ohh I totally agree, I've been asked for it and not asked for it. I guess what that means or illustrates could be debated for hours and hours.

Maybe some restaurants should advertise for those a bit nervous and say "we actually check" and other should have a "wink, wink" sign outside 😁😁

Meh, I dunno, they're damned if they do and potentially damned if they don't.

I also heard that absolute clown, Adrian Cummins from Restaurant Association, talking utter nonsense, he had the absolute neck to say some staff may have to go back on PUP (Which is actually closed) , the very support this Tool has been incorrectly blaming for staff shortages for months, even before Restaurants fully opened, he makes my Blood Boil 😡

Claire Byrne about to discuss with Philip Nolan

Philip Nolan , increase in Middle age older patients in hospital.

Is this the same Nolan that came up with the models which were a million miles off? If he told me the sky was blue I'd have to go outside and check

Claire Byrne: 50% of hospitalisations are vacinated according to Ann O Connor (Head of Spin HSE) earlier this morning (unless I've heard that wrong)