Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

You've got that stat all wrong

Its a cumulative stat from April to October. Back in April, plenty of older people were not vaccinated. Indeed the AZ group didnt get 2nd doses till Summertime. A cumulative stat from April through now means that it wasnt 7% unvaccinated, but a constantly moving % of population. Back in April it was majority unvaccinated, 7% of the population were vaccinated. We hit 50% vaccinated around mid July. So no its not a case of 7% of population = 69% of ICU admissions.

HPSC report is here: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/vaccinationstatusweeklyreports/Vaccination%20Status%20of%20ICU%20admissions.pdf

Total misinformation from yourself, par for the course really

No. My stat is what’s currently in ICU today. But keep trying. There’s currently 70% in ICU unvaccinated. Not to mention the small amount from that ignorant shower unvaccinated accounting for 50% of admissions. Hopefully action will be taken against them soon. Restrictions need to be imposed on antivaxxers.

The misinformation is from posters like yourself saying vaccines don’t work when all the evidence is out there that they do work.

Unfortunately they don't keep the previous reports, so we can only see the total since April. However there's the first report issued.

So the difference between then and now (excluding partially vaccinated) has it at 50% of admissions in that week been unvaccinated and 50% fully vaccinated.

A week is a short timeframe though, so it would be worth seeing the difference over the coming weeks.

From 50/50 to 70/30 in the space of a week, I doubt it

Interesting notes here on the antigen and pcr testing! PCR is too sensitive can still give results weeks after transmissible infection….

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uk-latest-news-live-coronavirus-pcr-lateral-flow-tests-12431158

Give over with the waning shyte. A huge french study has revealed all vaccines give strong protection for at least 5 months with no sign of waning.

That was against severe illness, and it wasn't complete protection, and as I keep posting, it was relative risk reduction. It tells you NOTHING about the base probability of hospitalisation.

As such, the person you replied to is 100% correct. You certainly are at more risk in that situation, against both infection AND hospitalisation AND death.

lol so you've based it on a soundbite

The HPSC's own surveillance data doesnt back up your claim unless its taken across the period April 1st to now - Glynn is likely referencing this same data, not an instantaneous snapshot of current ICU cases.

You've missed my point. Of course they can, if they wish to. Nobody is forcing anyone to go to the pub. I am talking about forcing people to go to the office that don't want to, and who can do their work fully from home at this time. No need to force people to mingle, if they don't want to. It is, or will, add to potential numbers, and give the powers that be another excuse to delay opening things that people want to do.

You're assuming that people go as far as reading stats to form opinions. We do ignore a lot of stats in everyday life anyway. A lot of the positions of those who are choosing not to get vaccinated are more about it not being for them. Either they don't believe they need it but they have some other personal issues or concerns about getting it in the first place. Whatever their issue I doubt that stats will give them any comfort or reason. 

They are playing a dangerous and divisive game on radio one at the moment.

To force those who have not yet gotten the vaccine requires going beyond what may be acceptable.

How do we keep getting played like this every time there is supposed to be a lifting of restrictions.

You've managed to completely miss the point (and the fact that you're harping on about another anti-vax buzzword "relative risk reduction" is telling, you should be using ARR, but you probably know that but like numbers that look like they might backup your batsh*t theories).

We are opening up based on the capacity of the healthcare system, as our hospital and ICU numbers have been remaining relatively static, this allows more and more to open up, if the numbers in hospital goes up, then restrictions remain in place until that wave of infections passes then we continue opening again.

You are using that number as a sign that vaccines aren't working, this is a false assumption to be making.

Good to see you have backed down on your "vaccines don't reduce transmission" claims.

No not according to me at all. So stop using that stupid analogy. I know lots of people who had heart attacks and had great care pre covid despite all the smokers and what have you out there.

You know perfectly well that Covid is the main threat to icu beds and if you’re vaccinated you’re far less likely to be that burden. Keep burying your head in the sand.