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Latest compo culture award

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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wonder how popular he'll be in the staff canteen now? It can be a very lonely place.

    Very. Think they give a ****?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Whats funny about these overdone threads about 'compo payouts' is I know for a fact that every bitter cun# on it would be straight down to their solicitor if they got injured


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭Triangle


    That's not true,
    I rear ended an old couple and they just wanted directions.
    I was also side swiped (three panels busted) and only wanted my car back in order.

    Not everyone is a greedy fecker looking for a payout at the expense of their fellow Irishmen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭slfcarro5


    Jaysus i got sprayed in the eye with acid in work. Its grand now but seems like i missed a trick. I could have got at least a million for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    I foresee the Union Beards looking for danger money, for anyone not working on the ground floor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,327 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    I blame the judge far more than the guy.

    If he is left with long term injuries then maybe his employer bears some responsibility for that.

    But to me it's about the wet slippy stairs. Esb are liable because they have stairs that are slippy when they get wet and they can get wet.

    The post training that the article focuses on is irrelevant, he'd have fallen either way probably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Do you get taxed on payouts such as this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    What Judge in the Republic of Ireland is on 350,000 euro?

    All of them.

    After the kickbacks from the lawyers that make a mint on the compo industry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭tigerboon


    Why are parcels being delivered upstairs only for them to be brought down again. Maybe some cost savings here which will no doubt be passed to the consumer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,066 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    The 80k a year plus the lump sum and 500 a week pension isnt enough for him

    Obviously not no.
    This is hardly the esb's fault its the judicial system that's allowed this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Why is someone else always to blame?

    Why can people not just accept that sometimes bad things happen through no ones fault?

    Because in our current compensation culture with its massively overly generous payouts for very trivial injuries, if you can find someone to point the finger at you’re likely in for a significant windfall.

    And we seem to be quite greedy as a nation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Ms Bronagh O'Hanlon found that Terence Morgan who had worked with the ESB for about 38 years did not get specific training in the task of collecting post which he had performed over a number of years.

    The above sentence sums up the utter ridiculousness of the compo culture. Yer man is collecting post (hardly mine-clearing levels of danger) for decades, and he can sue because nobody thought "You know what, we should run a training course for that genius that collects the letters, he's only being doing it for a lifetime, and he might not yet know about the whole carrying-an-envelope-while-walking thing that's so difficult"

    FFS specific training in collection of post,am I in a different planet or what,it's greed, nothing else,if h broke his neck,arm,leg,hand ,etc,no problem,,,some accident s are made


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    McCrack wrote: »
    Whats funny about these overdone threads about 'compo payouts' is I know for a fact that every bitter cun# on it would be straight down to their solicitor if they got injured

    Fell down some stone stairs in a castle but wouldn't go running to my solicitor because I'm not a money grabbing cnut. Plus it would probably close off the thing for other people to enjoy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    Pity he didn't break his neck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Fell down some stone stairs in a castle but wouldn't go running to my solicitor because I'm not a money grabbing cnut. Plus it would probably close off the thing for other people to enjoy.

    More fool you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    McCrack wrote: »
    More fool you

    Whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Just read on breaking news, about a toddler who ran at a ride on lawnmower at his cousins place and lost a part of his foot. He is 14 now and enjoys playing soccer and other sports. He also will enjoy the 725k he has just been awarded through his mother who sued her cousins and late cousins estates.
    I think now I'll either tell me cousins to feck off when they want to visit or if that doesn't fly I'll be looking for cousin visiting insurance!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    lalababa wrote: »
    Just read on breaking news, about a toddler who ran at a ride on lawnmower at his cousins place and lost a part of his foot. He is 14 now and enjoys playing soccer and other sports. He also will enjoy the 725k he has just been awarded through his mother who sued her cousins and late cousins estates.
    I think now I'll either tell me cousins to feck off when they want to visit or if that doesn't fly I'll be looking for cousin visiting insurance!

    A child looses part of their leg and your response is to make fun of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    After 38 years the lack of manual handling training should really be on him. Fair enough the employer was at fault but personal responsibility comes into play too, he should have refused if he felt he wasn't trained sufficiently.

    Common sense also plays a part for those who aren't trained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    A child looses part of their leg and your response is to make fun of them.

    Well done you, offended over absolutely nothing. Some craic at parties I'd imagine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,164 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Irishphotodesk


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Well done you, offended over absolutely nothing. Some craic at parties I'd imagine.

    Offended ?? I was in the court room listening to the case.... I know a bit more than what was reported in the court report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    beertons wrote: »
    Some people just don't get embarrassed.

    Embarrassing isn’t it? And here we are, being embarrassed for them. That’s the real embarrassment..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Offended ?? I was in the court room listening to the case.... I know a bit more than what was reported in the court report.
    No doubt this is the situation with a lot of court cases. But on the face of it (and that's all the rest of us can go on in fairness) suing extended family seems in poor taste to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    No doubt this is the situation with a lot of court cases. But on the face of it (and that's all the rest of us can go on in fairness) suing extended family seems in poor taste to say the least.

    It was probably by agreement. The other side possibly made some money from it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭Caquas


    I think this trumps everything I’ve heard. Kill your baby 20 years ago and get compo.

    Found guilty of murder by a jury, then the psychiatrist has second thoughts so now he is acquitted and

    The approval of the miscarriage of justice application entitled Mr Abdi to seek compensation from the State.



    Not from the shameless psychiatrist who has retracted his evidence, and not of course from the jury who convicted him on the basis of that evidence, still less from the judge who pronounced sentence. No, the Irish state must pay compo to an asylum seeker who smashed his infant son to death (and we’re certainly talking hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Euros - sure we’ve already spent that on legal expenses).

    of course we don’t worry about that, it’s only Euros, no real money will be spent until the Germans turn the lights on and see the mess we’re making.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,758 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    We got the compo culture from the states . In America they will sue for anything



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Some hope for honesty and common decency in this High Court judgement. Mr. Justice Twomey dismissed an appeal against a Circuit Court ruling in favour of the defendant in a PI case, and he went further by dismissing the entire set of proceedings.

    The judgement is worth reading in full. It sets out in clear language the malpractice and biases in our legal system which rewards bogus and exaggerated PI claims. (Don't imagine that other judges who lash out big damages to chancers are blind to the problems that everyone else can see.) Judge Twomey is careful not to accuse the lawyers of malpractice but the legal profession are now on notice that the senior judiciary have lost patience with their monkey-business. Referring a client directly to a (well-paid and compliant) consultant when they haven't even been to their GP is a major red flag.

    And the Indo highlighted the stress which the innocent defendant suffered. I hope Judge Twomey wiped the smile off the face of this chancer Damien Hennessy who couldn't even get his story straight. Sadly this fraudster can afford to smile after getting a tongue-lashing in the High Court. His social and economic status gives him an extraordinary legal privilege - he's unemployed and so immune from any claim for costs.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,631 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think the law regarding cases like this, is changing at the end of this year in Ireland that may results in fraudsters like these going to prison.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭boardlady


    I wouldn't go so far as to say the family made some money on it too - that is very cynical. But just imagine the scenario. Your siblings child has lost part of a foot .. your home insurance will cover the accident as that is what we pay it for. I think the decent thing is to allow your sibling's child to be compensated for an injury which occurred on your land - and which you are insured for. I'm not trying to advocate the compo-culture, but the article/headline never gives the full story without any slant. People have often gone years without work while their case is pending - that loss of earning is usually paid as part of the compensation. People are often left with life-changing injuries, or unable to continue in their work role. And I am not talking about the 'whiplash'/ soft tissue type injuries that are so prevalent in the court lists.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    Brilliant hopefully the tide is turning against these ambulance chasers and their sponger clients



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Both women knew each other as acquaintances and their cases, against the council, were heard together because they involved similar claims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Good to see that the average payout has reduced by 40% since the new guidelines were introduced in April. Back then, 12% of awards were below €10,000. Now, 50% are.

    Personal injury awards down 40% from 2020 - PIAB (rte.ie)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Did losing the case actually cost them anything though?. Also I see the playground was funded by the community, wonder if their insurance increased as there was a claim in against them for a few years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Ongoing afaik, bloody disgusting 🤮 behaviour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    One of the chancers on Liveline earlier trying to justify the claim. Says they'll appeal as they took the case to ensure the safety of children. Council released a statement saying the playground was not built, provided or maintained by them but by a local volunteer group. Playground closed in 2020 due to insurance claims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    One could hear Joe Duffy vocally masturbate as an aul bag told how it was someone else's fault that her fat hole fell off a child's swing.


    Joe..yer a bollix giving these ones airtime. Any reason half the country won't pay the TV licence to keep churning out chronic bollox on whineline



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    If it's genuinely for the wellbeing of the children why is she suing for a fat paycheck rather than working with local councilors and politicians?

    Surely it would have been shut down if it was a genuine hazard, I doubt the council would allow a dangerous playground whether they built it or not.



  • Posts: 0 Van Stale Palate


    Was a bit hilarious listening to Liveline this afternoon where a woman had got a broken bone when trying to use a child’s swing as it was “too low” for her. She lost but is appealing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭Dhenalau


    In Ireland, you still get 5 times what you get in the UK, if you go to court...

    Instead of playing Lotto tonight, I should sue my neighbour in court because his cat is pooping in my lawn 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Cheeky whoor solicitor was on an evening show on radio giving it the big one blaming the insurance companies for the large premiums.


    Let me tell you a simple fact. The legal profession are the only winners in this. They're literally creaming it.


    I know someone that lost the tip of their finger. Quite genuine case. The settlement out of court was 20k


    The solicitors took that specialise in chasing ambulances took a nice slice of it to the tune of 7k. I seen 1 invoice for 1500 from a plastic surgeon constantly for 15 mins



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,484 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    With any luck she'll be asked for proof of ability to cover the defence costs before appealing. Probably won't though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Kathnora


    Susan was on Liveline to explain her side of the story. While I totally agree with the judgement in this case it was interesting to hear her side of it. She thought it was okay to sit on the swing with a child to support the child as I think she said he was a bit afraid on his own (something to that effect). I would say that if the child was too nervous to use the swing on his own or too young for such a "bird's nest" swing as it was described then the child should not have been using it. Susan said that an engineer's report stated that the swing should be lifted another foot off the ground for safety and to avoid accidents. But ....what about the fact that if that were done the swing would be too high for some children and they could fall out of it and injure themselves? I blame the engineer for such a report. He must have been judging the height of the swing from an adult's perspective yet the swing was designed for use by young children! Susan was awarded €23,000 by a lower court (I think) but the Council rejected her claim so she took it to a higher court. Susan said she would have been happy to accept that amount. She had the advice of a barrister to go to a higher court and the barrister has also informed her that she has grounds for appeal. Good advice? I don't think so and I'm no barrister! Susan stated that she sat on the swing without thinking too much about it (she was simply helping the child she was minding at the time) and she doesn't agree that adults should use children's play equipment in playgrounds. That's fair enough.

    I think this is a case where everything wasn't thought through. Susan appeared to have good motives for her case. She didn't want an accident to happen to anyone else and she wanted to send a message to the County Council and so on. She was also unable to work for a good few weeks after her accident. The fact that the other lady Sarah (whom she met at the court and apparently has no friendship with) was taking a similar case to the court probably helped to convince her that she was doing the right thing. From listening to Susan today I don't think she was out for as much as she could get (unlike some!) ... I didn't get that impression anyway. I think she was badly advised (and yes I do think some barristers like to line their own pockets!) When you think about it rationally playgrounds are for children, not adults. I'm nearly sure (and stand corrected if I'm wrong) that there were signs in the playground to that effect. Perhaps additional signs warning adults NOT to accompany children on the equipment need to be erected? There are times when people need to think these things through for them selves and perhaps not be swayed by engineers and barristers. It's called common sense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Suing against someone that way is a lot less a sure thing than claiming off motor insurance


    I got hurt helping someone over three years ago, they wouldn't co-operate with insurance claim and taking them to court was too expensive


    I've chronic pain and I'm out at least 7k in medical expenses and other miscellaneous costs



  • Posts: 0 Van Stale Palate


    The whole point really is it was an accident caused by unsuitable use of equipment, and if she is really hard up for earnings there is sickness benefit in certain circumstances or a more minor court etc to cover loss of earnings. But she was after the “principle” of the matter. The principle is you don’t use small children’s equipment. Reminds me of a very early case in USA of microwave use where someone complained that instructions failed to say that a pet cat shouldn’t be put in to dry after a wash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Whether an adult should use it or not, or the height of something is in question, there's personal responsibility at play here. As long as the playground is in tact and structurally sound then they should have zero reasons to sue the moment they decide to put a child there or do something themselves. It was their decision. We shouldn't need signs warning who should use what. Ridiculous that people are suing for getting hurt. As if people never got hurt growing up.

    I remember a case where a woman was suing Dunnes because she hurt herself lifting something and wasn't trained in manual handling. It was thrown out if I remember because she could have simply not lifted it as she knew she wasn't trained or asked one of the lads to do it. Apparently they use pallet trucks for moving most stuff and she knew that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    It's human instinct to blame someone else for accidents rather than look inward

    If you look at someone walking on lego with their bare feet the immediate reaction is who the **** left that there..


    Accidents happen. I broke my hand in work. Twice. I never sued anyone, because on the first occasion was my own fault and the second was a genuine accident. Literally no fault of anyone. Of course, If I was a thieving little scroat, I could make l a case and cash them cheques. But I'm not a cnut.

    Post edited by AckwelFoley on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,688 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    She could write to the council and advise them and not go down a legal route if all she wanted was no further injuries to anyone else.

    I'm sorry but she is a gowl, it's a playground for children. Next there'll be grown adults trying to squeeze themselves into the kiddie seat of a shopping trolley and sueing when they get stuck as theres no signs telling them an adult cant sit there.

    We are as bad as the States when we have to put up signs for everything because people are dumbasses.



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