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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,767 ✭✭✭hynesie08




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well it was a CMO but just the deputy! Poster may not have been aware that the CMO is not back until Monday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Very very dangerous wording by Leo!! So it’s basically everyone’s fault that we can’t go ahead next week if Nphet say so! What a plank of a man

    https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1448620933393039362?s=21



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,767 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    He was trying to get a dig in and didn't do the most basic research, I'm not even surprised.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah, I've said that before, and I've no issue with it. Going out in public when you're sick, coughing spluttering at your desk in work, sitting in the pub while you're clearly dying from a dose, should all be very unacceptable. Employers who insist you come in should be vilified, people who shrug it off seen as idiots.

    But there is more to it than just "shun sick people". The social supports need to be there; mandatory sick pay, more availability of GPs, access to short-term childcare, etc etc. It's all well and good to say, "Stay at home when you're sick" when that's something anyone can do. But there are plenty of people who can't just fire off a text to their boss saying, "Not feeling well, won't be in", pull up the covers and stay put. Many people who still have to get up out of bed and get **** done one way or another.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,305 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    No, he's basically saying, "If we can't go ahead next week, then blame the unvaccinated, it's their fault.

    He's not entirely wrong. The unvaccinated can get fucked at this stage one way or another.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Based on the comments and article's we've seen over the last 24 hours and the experiences we've had over the last 18 months, it seems almost inevitable now that 22nd October is not going to fully go ahead. How bad things will be probably depends on how the hospitals are looking early next week.

    Sadly, we've seen this kind of kite flying again and again over the last 18 months.

    It will get leaked bit by bit until MM comes down the stairs and starts waffling on about great progress and meaningful Christmas etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    How is it dangerous if you go for a walk in the park or a drive if you have a sniffle.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,621 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Asked if there would be a major return of workers next week following last month’s gradual reopening of offices, Donohoe said that was “a little less likely

    It is possible that some of the restrictions that are due to be lifted may not be, of course that’s possible. We expected the figures would increase, the question is whether they are increasing to a level that means we have to reevaluate,” Foreign Minister Simon Coveney told the Newstalk radio station.

    Well able to read past the headline,you said absolutely no rational person was thinking about or talking about a row back in the lifting of restrictions past the 22nd. 4 politicians alone,MM,Leo,Paschal and Coveney have come out in the last 24 hours and said they will have to reevaluate the situation before they give the go ahead for the opening on the 22nd. So you are as usual spouting complete lies



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    They can go get fûcked but it can’t be the stick that they beat the rest with!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,305 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Didn't David Cullane ask NPHET a few weeks back if there was danger of them not recommending the lifting of restrictions and they have the usual waffle excuse



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    All well and good with this get fcked bravado message, but how does that help when the majority will be made to suffer because of a small minority?

    The anti vaxxers aren’t going to magically turn around and get vaxxed because they’re being told it’s their fault. If anything, it’ll harden them and make them say “told you so”.

    Using the unvaxxed as a way to continue to restrict the general population is gaslighting, manipulation, and irresponsible at best. I’d go further and say it’s dangerous and won’t lead to good results.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,537 ✭✭✭brickster69


    That's what they want next, the Italian model of " No jab no job " you can see it a mile off

    Massive national strikes planned for Friday when it starts, every port in the Country is expected to be blockaded. Will be absolute chaos

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,059 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well, when we had it - the HSE advice was two weeks after date of testing positive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Good to see. People are far too passive here in Ireland though



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you sneeze should you stay under the bedcovers.

    where are we going with this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Yes.

    Feel the hate.

    Let it flow through you.

    Mmmmm.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    A classic boards covid meltdown. Haven’t seen one of these in a few months. Surely if Oct 22 is pushed back, that must be Christmas cancelled for 2021.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,537 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Trieste port is very important to lots of countries. Honestly i can see revolutions coming soon you know.


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why is he saying you could infect the unvacinated person, we know now the vaccines dont stop you passing covid on so you could infect vaccinated people too.

    we have always accepted herd immunity with vaccines, we dont have everyone vaccinated against measles and measles is very transmissable and dangerous.

    The level of anger being stirred up against the unvaccinated is unreal. Would most of these people have caught covid anyway and surely natural immunity is better than vaccines that seem to be wearing off already.

    NEPHET need to be told to step away from the media, whats going on is ridiculous, it looks like they are leaving the Government with no lee way, what is their endgame here, we are not getting rid of covid, the vaccines are wearing off, some people are so old vaccines dont offer any protection, is the plan to vaccinate everyone every six months for the rest of their lives, do we vaccinate every child too, where do we find the money for this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Not in Ireland you won't. We'll take what's being handed out here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    You have been played - that is the exact reaction they want. Don't blame the government, dont blame NPHET, dont blame the HSE or the pathetic healthcare system in this country, or the high levels of hospital acquired infections, no.. blame the <10% of adults who arent vaccinated, most of whom are under 30 and at minimal risk of hospitalisation! Those bloody bastards eh!

    The reason they get away with postponing reopenings is because people like Seamus are all too happy to accept whatever excuse they come out with - the latest being the anti vaxxers are collapsing the health service or some such



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Barring a major scandal involving one of their members, NPHET are here to stay for the foreseeable.. I can’t see them being gone til at least May 2022.

    We are at the point where an academic lecturer is now allowed tell our population what they can or can’t do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Amadan Dubh


    NPHET, representing the woeful health service, mirrors our government. For too long the establishment (capital "S" State and all who work for her) have been creaming off the productive parts of the economy for themselves and we have ended up in this dreadful situation where the country is at a standstill on issues to do with housing and infrastructure, while it spins around in circles on matters relating to health and politics. Meanwhile, ordinary people try to just get on with their lives. It's gross incompetence on the part of successive FF and FG governments, which has lead to the current situation and I think we need to see them being called out for the way they are allowing this country to fall apart.

    At the same time, Irish people are almost masochistic and very simple-minded when it comes to authority so I do not expect there to be much by way of complaints if the status quo with respect to covid restrictions gets retained for another few months. For those that are really suffering emotionally and financially from the whole thing, they have my sympathies as this is very much an artificial crisis at this stage and manufactured by our spineless politicians.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Whats happening in the world these days is truly scary and I am not talking about Covid.

    Imagine in late 2019 being told that people in Italy would be forced to get vaccinated against a disease before they could get a job. Or that you'd need to show your vaccine papers to have a cup of tea in Ireland. Or that you'd have nut jobs suggesting that 4 year old children should wear masks all day long at school...

    Or that you'd have Irish people saying the unvaccinated can get F*cked while some poor pregnant woman is reluctant to get vaccinated because god forbid she's worried about the health of her unborn child.

    Imagine seeing all the footage of people rioting just because they'd like to have their freedoms returned.

    This disease has turned us into monsters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭bloopy


    What is happening in the media and the online discourse it is creating is getting out of hand.

    We need proper, open and full statistics of what is happening in Irish hospitals.

    Not this **% since April first.

    Daily or at least weekly figures on vaccination status both admissions and discharges.

    Information on whether admission is due to covid or if covid is in addition to another condition.

    Length of stay in hospital or icu

    Checking vaccination status of cases reported.

    Vaccination status of weekly deaths.

    Whether deaths are because of covid or with covid.

    If we don't start getting open information soon, then we are heading down a very dark path. Already there are some who are just a hairs breath from demanding special camps - both on here and in the Irish media



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There are consultants in both Holles St and Rotunda advising pregnant women not to get vaccinated. So while we have one side of the mouth giving out about the rates of vax in pregnant women being low, one side is also telling them not to get it, as I quote one consultant, “the side effects on the fetus are just not known”.

    These are a small but sizeable minority of the unvaxxed that apparently we have to tell to “get fvcked” as one poster said.



  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Ozvaldo


    Sounds like a New Worid Order


    best I thought was Razor Ramon



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  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Exactly. There is nowhere near enough research on this vaccine's impact on pregnancy or fertility.

    I can fully understand why pregnant women or women hoping to get pregnant in the near future might be reluctant to take it.

    Telling them to get f*cked or cutting them off from society is simply cruel.



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