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24 Hours in Police Custody - Channel 4

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weird......still an awful lot of unanswered questions!!!!!!! Perhaps it was totally unprovoked & random............. very hard to 'buy' that though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Sick sick sick individual - thank god he finally got his comeuppance, alas far too late in life


    Wrecked so many peoples lives


    Dunno how those detectives deal with listening to those stories from the victims and we don't even hear half of it



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep, old Carter is a "bad one" through & through............ he slipped through the net so many times he must've thought he was teflon



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,277 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    How creepy was he telling them to give the (now adult) child he had raped 'a hug from me'?

    Disgusting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,394 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Strange that the sentencing was done between Episodes 1 and 2.

    I'm not feeling it for this series so far. Has nothing on episodes from previous series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Was he not telling the police woman at the desk to give the detective a hug for bringing his things out? Just before she did, he was asking about stuff he had left there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    It was the "banter" he was trying to have at the desk that got me. Imagine having to pretend to be nice to absolute sub human scum like him. Couldnt do the job they do tbh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Housefree




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  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    If they don't the civil liberty brigade are there waiting to pounce and politicians from opposition parties will scream to high heaven about police corruption. The public get a real picture of policing from programmes like this not media biased stories.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,277 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Oh I may have misunderstood that.

    He was very odd wasn't he? Not a flicker when being accused of rape and drugging people etc. and then flips at the idea that he ever used drugs himself.

    I don't know what was going on with the jury that acquitted him of the earlier rape of the young man. Just shows you never know with juries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Yeah, a really really sick individual. In the 1st ep when he ran his finger over the photo of a victim too was chilling.

    And like you said, not an ounce of emotion but lost the head when defending himself against using drugs. Fcked up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Only watching episode 2 this week.

    Good to see a proper sentence, I would say the cases it highlighted are only tip of the iceberg, countless lives ruined.

    I am still in shock about that rape of the 30 year old man....tbh even more confused how he got off with that in court with all the evidence...bizarre



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone watching tonight's episode.......seperated dad drops off son, the new "buck" & himself get into an altercation ........ex -partner ( dad) ends up getting stabbed......... the buck goes on the 'lamb' for all of about 8hrs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Felt sorry for the killers dad tbh. Seemed like a proper aul lad, decent skin. His Mam seemed to be a bit more on the wilder side and probably where the son got it from.

    15 stab wounds isnt self defence and thankfully the life sentence for murder reflected that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Looks like it's not the first time he's encountered a knife going by his face

    I had no love for the mother either


    Seriously 15 stab wounds all over the body - sounds like he was a raving lunatic attacking him

    Well deserved sentence!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    2 or 3 stabs to the stomach could be perhaps angled as some kind of self defence if they occured at the doorstep, 15 wounds was no case of self defence.

    The mother should have been locked up for 6 months as a deterrent, the father though was co-operative when questioned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Yeah was very surprised she wasn't charged. Said nothing til they told her he had already been found and arrested and was like ok I'll tell you everything to try and cover her own back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Terrific episode this week.

    Self defence?....he stabbed him 15 times when the guy was across the road....

    The fact he instructed the mum to get "my solicitor"...asking who "grassed" on him he clearly has a past.

    The mum seemed rough and aggressive (the no comment thing was dropped pretty quickly about helping the son)....the dad seemed a tad bewildered. They were both very lucky to get no sentence at all!



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  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't think that lad/murderer was the sharpest tool in the box in any event. Felt sorry for the Father, seemed genuinely gutted that a life had been taken....the Mother was/is a right bitch.......she seemed more concerned that neighbours were saying ' oh, is that the estate where the murderer lives' than the fact a guy was dead. The deceased guys mother was far more decent/ civilised. I assume the 19yr sentence he got is a GENUINE 19yrs....... as in ' 19 before remission/parole'?????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    It was a minimum of 19 years.

    The mum was seriously rough.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Did you notice how she kept puffing away on her ciggie with the husband in the room......poor guy has COPD, that'll do him the world of good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,258 ✭✭✭Be right back


    And probably an oxygen tank nearby too. She came across as a cold, tough piece of work, particularly in her first police interview.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jeez, this is shaping up to be a "nasty" one tonight, I'm hoping this isn't going down the road I think it's going to go....not an easy watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes it was a rough one, so hard for police to actually come to any conclusion when there's little or no evidence to guide them as to how the injuries actually occured. The 2 parents were absolute scummers, the father in particular trying to put the blame on the mother during his 'toilet break'. 3 years is nothing when the child's life is destroyed, he should have got 10 years to send out a signal that it's not acceptable. Hopefully the child was not given back to the mother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Whilst the father was willing to shift blame to the mother the mother seemed very lacking in emotion in the interviews whilst being told all the injuries


    Unfortunately this episode has hit close to home for me, a deep seated hatred I carry to this day



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A 3yr sentence!!!!!!!! When I think of that poor toddlers lifelong injuries / brain damage......it brought a tear to my eye.....im not a vindictive/ violent kinda guy but I would like to give my own 'sentence' involving Hurley & baseball bat.....hoping he gest 'sorted' inside- you could see on cops faces they were thinking along same lines as me when that piece of sxxt came up with the 'I had to go for a weewee' palace. That poor little guy is going to need full time care for rest of his life so I think there's zero chance he'll be returned to mother.......lets be honest, she seemed incapable of making a ham sandwich on her own.


    I like that show when it's good ol fashioned burglars, pimps, blackmailers, car thieves, smugglers etc. Tonight's episode DID NOT like, kudos to the cops....they tried their best



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Seemed like post natal depression I thought. The fact she was so spaced out and cold worked against her but its also common to feel detatched from your child as a first time mother with PND. The father was definitely a scummer though. That video of him holding the baby in the hospital on Facebook really fcked me off because he was clearly doing it knowing he was under investigation and would need a defence. Landed himself in hot water when he admitted to being the last one with the child. Really paints that FB video in a more obvious light. Scummer trying to game the system for some sympathy and I've a feeling it worked considering the sentence at the end.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,277 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Yes I thought the mother was completely out of her depth, perhaps even on medication.

    His attitude of 'well would I be visiting him in the hospital if I had done it?' was interesting.

    The police officer's face when the out of the blue toilet visit was announced said it all. It was unravelling for him from then on.

    That 'no comment' nonsense must really piss police off.

    Three years for leaving what was a perfectly normal baby deaf, blind, palsied and brain damaged? Jesus Christ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,258 ✭✭✭Be right back


    3 years is a joke for what he did. The mother didn't come across well either. I wonder what happened to the baby in the first case also.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I didn't "get" that either.......... what was the point of showing that ( heinous)1st case???? It didn't go anywhere..... no conclusion. I can only surmise that the point was to highlight/ indicate what the cops are up against/ facing in these horrible "shaken baby" cases????? That's the best I can come up with Anyhow!!! I just hope karma catches up with these scum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    New episode tonight at 9, concludes tomorrow night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,258 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Just watching it. Hard watch. What the f is wrong with some people?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,550 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Absolutely horrific, that poor baby.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    How the hell could you do that even in the most extreme of rages, punch a f*cking wall ffs - he's an absolute monster, hope he gets everything coming to him in prison

    And as for her, mother of year award is never gonna happen



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers Atlantic Dawn, I'll watch that on the 'player' thingy..........darts took over all viewing last couple of nights. Sounds like a grim episode



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes Darts for me too, there's a combined episode from both nights on Wednesday.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers.....ill leave it off till tommorow night so........ch4 @ 9???????



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,277 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Tonight (Tuesday) at 9pm and tomorrow (Wednesday) at 11.05pm.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I remember this case but didn't know the background etc. Extremely tough watch.


    My mum was a health visitor for a long time.... i also have a friend who is a social worker....I don't know how people do it!


    They mentioned the baby P case, that would give you nightmares as well!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭Deregos.


    I don't envy the police officers on this case, they've done brilliant but emotionally it must be one of the most difficult types of crimes to investigate.

    This angry prick should never of been allowed near anyone's children. Interesting to see if she also gets prison time.

    Pictures of your own bad parking WITH CHAT



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jeez...... I got "up to speed" earlier on the player.....warching episode 2 now...... just a couple of quick thoughts......

    This scumbag ain't ever going to be on 'university challenge' ...he looks like he's got the IQ of a dead badger.

    Zero surprise that he's not the 'daddy'.... Lucy looks the kind that would look after "after" the sailors when the ship comes in/ payday. She ain't exactly a descendent of Einstein either.

    -------------------------------------------

    I keep thinking of baby Teddy............11weeks of **** he endured in this World......wouldve been better off stillborn. R.I.P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Your man is a very angry individual, very smarmy and always has an answer to everything

    And those crocodile tears when he found out he wasn't the father didn't last long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,986 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    That child's interview is damning for Kane but, moreso the Mother. She stayed with him when she knew he inflicted violence on her kids as well as her.



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Let's be honest......we all felt a bit sorry for the poor van driver.......pity he wasn't going a bit faster mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,707 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    Yeah, deserved a lot more hurt than that, shows how selfish he was that he didn't even care what happened to the driver'

    Paralysis from the waist down would have been fitting



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So the lovely lucci got basically nothing & "Ugly" Kane got life with a minimum 18yrs........said it before.....wouldve been better if the van driver finished him off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,029 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Jesus wept that was shocking stuff, 2 years community service for that Tramp 😳

    Kane almost too stupid to be evil , Horrid, ghastly, nasty and selfish scumbag 😡

    The Van Driver has to be congratulated, pity he wasn't driving a juggernaut at the time.

    I know these cases extremely difficult to investigate but my god, that was shocking stuff, hard to believe people like these vile individuals exist, let alone be allowed to have children.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Very very hard to investigate. The shots of the detectives reading the post mortem showed it really. I wouldn't be able to look him in the eye.


    The kids interview at the end showed what he really was like. They can't lie.


    Nothing would slap sense into the mother, She was so blinded that she didn't notice all the injuries he caused him, Like he must of just cried all the time.

    Even tho it would of been better for the van to finish him off it was mad that it was the same injuries as Teddy. Almost like this is what you caused that little lad, But your hands were the van, that's how hard you hit him.



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