Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Shouldn't be up to Watford though. Don't some league 1/league 2 games get called off when clubs are missing players due to internationals.

It's actually ridiculous that Brazil play 35 hours before we "return" from the international break. The whole situation has barely been mentioned and when it is it's lumped in with Covid and travelling restrictions. Even without covid the scenario is nuts.

Raphinha's agent Deco (yes that Deco) is saying in the Brazilian press that Liverpool have inquired about  Raphinha.

Deco is also Fab's agent.

I think you need to look not at our homegrown player numbers, but the number of players allowed from outside the UK. That number is 17, then you can have up to 8 UK homegrown players to make the squad size of 25. You cannot have more then 17 players from outside the UK, so if you have no homegrown players then you will only have a squad with 17 players, along with the youth players you are allowed.

That is why we allowed Minamino to go out on loan last year, to get Kabak in we had to make space for one non-UK player in the squad.

My understanding is that for registration in UEFA comps, it needs to be three years between the ages of 15-21. So at this moment, he's not HG in any nation, but if he came back to England before he was 20, he'd end up HG for English sides.

I think the Premier League are more lax about it and just take any 3 years before the age of 21, so he would be HG for PL registration, having been in Birmingham's youth system since he was 7, but I'm not completely sure if that's how they do it.

Interesting - going from a man who can't stop shooting to a man whose record with shots is, by the man's own admission, non-existent.

The Watford game seems like a recipe for possible disaster tbh....no Fabinho, no Allison, groggy after international break and up against a potential new manager bounce.

Although Watford change manager so often I wonder if it's possible for a new manager bounce at this stage.

We should have more than enough quality either way hopefully

Klopp mentioned that in their preparation, they had to study how Sampdoria played as that was Ranieri's last job. He'll have had his time on the training pitch too with the players, to get them prepped for this game.

It's still a game Liverpool should expect to be winning either way.

Jones injured as well

We might have to go for a Toby lineup so. 4 at the back, 6 up front.

Wasn't he carrying a knock into that game too???

Fucking England....

I can see it being this tomorrow...

Henderson Milner

Salah Firmino Mane

Jota

Klopp said he's fit.

Lee Carsley and Ashley Cole are the England U21 management team, they weren't renowned for their intelligence as players so it would be a shock if they exhibited some now.

Great a skeleton midfield away to a side with the unpredictable new manager bounce. Not optimistic.

Might be a weekend for 3 at he back ,

Gomez , VVD ,Konate , pace either side VVD instead of Matip , Plus you know there going to go the Brentford route and try attack us in the air at RB

Then Milner & Hendo sitting in midfield with Robbo & Trent either side on the wings

With which ever 3 you like up top

This might be an ignorant answer but could it be because his games for his country are less intense? Same as when he was in Germany and played most games there, and same as whenever he leaves us he will no doubt play most games for whoever he plays for next.

No idea about Cole, but Carsley is meant to be hugely rated as an upcoming manager.

As highly rated as Southgate no doubt.

the tea lady at Newcastle is going to be on more money than Pogba

Carsley was seen as the natural successor to Aidy Boothroyd as the U21 manager. He had previously succeeded Boothroyd as the U20 manager when Southgate vacated the U21 role to become the national team manager. It was the simplest solution for the FA to keep the continuity.

Anyone watching sky documentaries (sky 121), Kenny. All about Daglish. It’s my time as a kid watching Liverpool. Very personal looking at his playing career in Celtic and Liverpool and currently about his first stint as manager. Stunning stuff.

Carsley's role in the England under age setup had previously been in a specialist role teaching players positioning skills for when the team is out of possession. It's a natural fit considering he played as a defensive midfielder as a player.

My cousin is a Brentford supporter and his take on Carsley is that he's a coach for training players but he's not a manager. He used to slag Carsley off when he was their U21 manager because he would shout at individuals to tell them what they were doing wrong in a situation rather than adapting his tactics. When Carsley became caretaker manager of Brentford, he adapted their 4-2-3-1 system to use 3 defensive midfielders and 2 central midfielders behind a lone striker. My cousin was raging because their creative spark Sergi Canos was left sitting on the bench and brought on when Brentford were already 2-0 down in one of Carsley's first games. Carsley started Canos in one of the games and kept him on the pitch when the game was won even though Canos was getting lumps kicked out of him and unsurprisingly he picked up an injury. Carsley moved on to Man City afterwards, he obviously has some talent for working with youth players as he was hired to manage their U18 team and they played attacking football.

My impression of him as a manager is obviously coloured by what my cousin has had to say about him because I trust his judgement. Carsley has been involved in the England underage setup for almost 10 years which is plenty of time for him to be indoctrinated in their practices. The FA commissioned a study into injuries suffered by players at senior and underage levels while on international duty. The report following analysis of 8 years of collected data was published last December.

They don't have a great reputation for looking after the players while on international duty and the management ignore the findings of the study. For example, Southgate kept Declan Rice on the pitch after he picked up a knock in the game against Poland last March because "he was playing so well". Rice missed the next 6 weeks of the season and returned for the final 3 league games. Moyes reaction was "Ah, it's England. What can you say?". Southgate also put an unfit Alexander-Arnold in the team for a meaningless friendly against Austria and aggravated the injury he was carrying. He named Reece James in the squad for the recent international break despite the fact that the player couldn't walk and had been exercising in a swimming pool. Tuchel made a joke about it saying he thought it was the England Water Polo team. Chelsea had also asked for Mason Mount not to be called up because he has been carrying an injury since the Tottenham game last month. The request was ignored and Mount played for 20 minutes of the Andorra game and all of the Hungary game - Tuchel must be delighted.

Man City pulled one of their youth players (Nmecha) out of the England underage squads during an international break a few years ago. It had been agreed that he would go with the squad but he wasn't to play because he was carrying an injury and aggravating it would hinder his development. He didn't play in the first game but contacted Man City days later to say he had been informed that he was playing in the next game. Club officials removed him from the England camp the same day. Nmecha switched his national allegiance to Germany shortly afterwards and scored the goal that won the European U21 Championships Final last summer. I'm not suggesting that the incident was the reason for the change, but I do think that it was a factor in the decision process.

It doesn't at all surprise me that Lee Carsley chose to put a midfield player on the pitch when his striker had just been sent off. The fact that the player he chose to introduce was already carrying an injury would have been of no consideration and because it's the England setup it's not a surprise.