Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Young people will have house parties.

Id prefer if we opened nightclubs and let in those with a covid pass.

Yep what's the end goal if stuff like that can't proceed in Ireland but can everywhere else including countries with similar populations

You are so right there . The stereotype of the big Irish drunken paddy is some absolute pile of shite lie . The English are the real drinkers of Europe . Once you get to thirty in Ireland you are expected to sit at home watch the late late with your glass of wine . Pathetic . In England they know how to have a night out. 20 30 40 it doesn’t matter what age you are . Life is for living . Advanced nations like England know that . Ireland still in the dark ages .

I'm sitting here at mid 30's with my glass of wine watching the late late 😂

But this is very true, working in England opened my eyes, lunch hour down the pub for a pint, Weds, Thurs, Friday after work drinks.

Nail on the head with older generation going down the strip as we used to call it in wigan, anyone form 20s to 50s, living it up down there.

Ah you're just making stuff up now, you know that is not what I said.

Eeee, I always thought drinking was escaping from life. Ho do you live your life if you are drunk?

The most basic, basic, prevention of transmission of all disease ,gastrointestinal, respiratory and otherwise , is through the proper washing of hands,. It's the first thing all chefs, nurses , doctors, childcare staff , hospitality workers , and even children learn .

I don't believe your post CorkRed93 and think you and nyero are taking the proverbial .

All I ask is that you wash your hands afterwards ;)

No idea, you've different ministers saying different things, covney for example also said he thinks there'll be a major lifting but perhaps vaccine certs might stay, Harris was along the same lines.

My own opinion I think we'll open up but with extended use of the vaccine cert. I could be miles off but that was what I thought when the inital soundings came out the other day and the comments of various ministers seem to indicate that's the thought process in government as well.

At long last in government the question if not now then then when seems to be asked

I’d be delighted if that’s what transpires. It does seem like fg boys want reopening with strict enforcement of covid certs . I really hope they get their way on this . MM seems so much more conservative. Numbers in hospital always peak at weekends /Monday so the optics will be unfavourable . Hopefully they hold their nerve and open to the vaccinated . As you say if not not when ?

Honestly Goldengirl I wish I had your confidence in the system.

Raind posted an Irish Times article showing some rates in ICU in early Sept, which at the time was approx 54% or even split between vaccinated & unvaccinated.

If there’s a source or information for the current ICU admissions & hospitalisations, that would be fantastic as it’s what the Government are basing how the next 6 months will be for Irish society, pretty big decisions. We’ve no breakdown of other issues either like age, underlying conditions, etc.

How you can seriously state that vaccinated people aren’t being ostracised akin to Lepers is beyond me. They cannot enter into restaurants, pubs, cafes, and plenty more. They’ve been targeted all week as a scourge to society and the reason for all the current talk of not reopening from politicians in the Dáil (Leo Varadkar), to medics & hysterical doctors on the airwaves bashing Callum Robinson to their hearts content. I’m fully vaccinated and cannot stand this rhetoric. Did you hear Pat Kenny’s rants this week?

I also cannot stand Israel for a number of reasons, but the way they’re going about boosters, disabling certs and forcing their population to take them should be ringing alarm bells here. Imagine people taking two doses of a vaccine only for them to be wiped & ordered to take more. This is absolutely shocking behaviour. Why do you think that wouldn’t happen here? We’ve done everything else Israel has in relation to Covid response, we’re hysterical, we’re talking of abandoning freedom day. I would much prefer if we followed Denmark, Norway, U.K., Sweden type response from here on out. Leo Varadkar is on record talking about an ‘extensive’ booster campaign here. His statements carry weight due to his position.

No child should be given these vaccines unless there's a medical reason to do so, there is no benefit. Joe Biden is out talking up vaccination for this age group in the US. You think Ireland wouldn’t follow that? They don’t even seem to follow NIAC advice here on 12-15 group & pushed it on all of that age group.

I presume you and the other authoritarian extremists also would like to see a ban on people coming into the country from places with poor vaccine uptakes? So no Africans, South Americans, Asians etc. in Ireland until they are vaccinated.

I mean, to support restrictions on everyone even though 90% are fully vaccinated would mean that you have a zero tolerance for unvaccinated people in society.

Yeah FF TDs seem to be a little quieter, the only FF TD that's been semi vocal the last few days is Dun Laoighre TD Cormac Devlin who's managed to get the NTA and Dublin bus to resume the nitelink from the 22nd of course subject to Tuesdays decision but he was really pushing that after the parliamentary party meeting the other night.

Chances are they were not hired, they were taken off PUP or went on to the wage subsidy employment scheme. There are plenty of supports for industries starting back up or attempting to. It's not a cut and shut or cliff edge you make out.

Its very unsettling where we are heading in Ireland

We should be global outliers as a reward for vaccine uptake. There should be no mention of Covid here anymore, we should be having concerts in Croke park for the last 3 months

Instead the goal posts continually move.

The vulnerable went from 85 year old's to vaccinating 13 year old's

Where will we be next June??

Caught in the same circle, make no mistake