Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

I agree, I always understood the WFH policy, was just that, policy, not a mandate of actual law/restriction as such (open to correction)

My impression is that overall this will be driven by employers, not government in the sense if it was feasible, companies will permit/encourage it. Already major multi nationals , Finance, accounting firms have state they'll stick with the guidance primarily because it suits both them and employees.

Obviously there's been cases of employees unhappy about being called back to the office but I'm not entirely sure employers were ever legally obligated to allow employees work remotely.

Edit, apart from level 5 lockdown period, but even then it seemed essential worker could have been interpreted in many different ways and it absolutely was.

Tiresome nonsense re PUP, if the "Brazilian " cleaning manager had any issue with people refusing to return to work, her employer has and alway had a mechanism to report this to the DEASP, to date miniscule numbers of employers have actually reported and even those that did , complaints were not held up after investigation. PUP has closed, payments drastically reduced and I suspect those who earned minimum wage (cleaners from example) are now likely to be on the lowest PUP rate of €203 per week = to JSA.

Your friend might find if they checked, alot of her colleagues may have actually left the country, along with enormous numbers of hospitality workers. Finally students who would make up a large percentage of hospitality workers have been off PUP if returning to education since 14th Sept and yet hospitality industry still blaming PUP for their staff shortages, is absurd and disgraceful. People have moved on, home or gone home.

The SARS-COV2 vaccines are amongst the most effective of vaccines. The variable in all this is that SARS-COV2 has high transmission rates, if SARS-COV2 had the same transmission rate as influenza it would have been virtually eliminated in vaccinated countries.

The high transmission rate of the virus is why it's still circulating even with highly effective vaccines, the vaccines keep the cases stable and virtually eliminate the threat for the vast majority of society, in countries like the US it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

"if" SARS-COV2 had the same R0 as the original SARS virus it would have burnt out long ago without vaccines, but it doesn't and we're lucky that vaccines are able to reduce the transmission and illness rates to the levels they have.

If you get restrictions through this winter, they'll do it every winter.

Post Covid (if it ever happens) we'll have a taoiseach getting battered for the annual flu surge and hospitals being overworked. They'll bring in mask mandates and restrictions to pretend they are doing something. Public health nutters will be demanding it too and they will bow.

This is an every winter thing if it doesn't get stopped now. You don't want your kids growing up saying "back in the Aul lads day they didnt even wear masks in shops at Christmas. Madness".

It gets nipped in the bud now or it never does. People were saying we were batshit crazy for suggesting this not too long ago. Now it is a real possibility.

He was slaughtered after those outrageous comments, I was actually listening to the show were he made these outrageous claims, he was put back in his box by not only two opposition TD'S but a government junior minister sitting in the studio, search Saturday with Katie Hannin podcast if you don't believe me.

These scurrilous accusations stem from investigations that took place last year at the very start of the Pandemic and as I've stated, there was of course abuses. In the same interview this buffoon was asked would he be as quick to forgo the generous and substantial grants his members are getting , not only was the answer, no, he's looking for them to be extended and for them to be extended.

Adrian Cummins then went on this week to actually suggest hospitality workers may have to go back on PUP (which is closed) as a result of the panic over the possible delay in fully reopening. Hypocrisy at its most galling levels.

To finish, the Hospitality sector as a whole was by far the least likely to avail of wage subsidy supports at the start, they instead told staff, off you go and claim PUP rather than retain, a little rich to be now crying wolf when the very staff they dropped like bad habits, F**KED off and for good.

Intriguing, same snide and offensive responses when people clueless on what they are trying to defend.

If your incapable of finding the podcast for the show were these outrageous statements were made, I'll be glad to help.

He essentially quoted from reports done by the auditor General on investigations done literally 15 months ago, I'm simply confirming of course abuses took place, Cummins was trying to suggest that this disgraceful behaviour was happening up to last Saturday and was roundly critised for essentially claiming the majority of 110k still on pup which includes staff from sectors still closed, partly opened or from business's closed for good were claiming PUP fraudulently . Perhaps you think this is acceptable, I certainly don't nor did the host and 3 TD'S present.

Be under no illusions (albeit perhaps delusions a better word) DEASP Have and do carryout regular checks and cross reference info with Revenue on a weekly basis.

Always wise to understand a topic before going off on an incoherent rant by way of snide insults .