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Stupid things a learner driver does!

  • 15-10-2021 7:32pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭


    I was driving home one evening, as I left the town I had a little prick in a little pricky car with a big L plate on the back window. He was driving at 20 mph, then graduated to 30mph. When we got out to the country and past all the bends he got up to 40 mph on the straight part. That was until I went to over take the little **** and I was bombing it on the right side of the road doing 75mph, with a oncoming vehicle flashing me . I had to sound the horn at him! Luckily I got past him without killing myself or the on coming vehicle colliding with me. I was so angry with these stupid little prat, that he down booted when I was overtaking him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Mad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    You sure you didn’t mean this to be a rant in the pub?



  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Ironman76


    What about a thread “Stupid Things Experienced Drivers Do” . . Like the fact 90% don’t bother indicating. As a motorcyclist the last 20 years I have rarely have a bad experience with learner drivers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    so your on the wrong side of the road , speeding towards an oncoming car yet you see the learner as the problem , says a lot more about you level of competency than the other persons



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Burt Renaults


    Similar things have happened to me before, although not necessarily with learners. Sitting patiently behind a slow moving car until it's safe to overtake. And as soon as I attempt it, they floor it. Unless you're driving a vastly more powerful car, the safest thing to do is always pull back in behind them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    Lol that's not quite the way it went down, overtaking requires going past the car in front could hardly fly over him !



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Takes lessons from an instructor starting on Main Street 😁 That is, to say, one of the hardest things when learning to drive is operating the clutch, and pulling off smoothly..... So, if the learner is a complete novice, it makes it very awkward as s/he has to concentrate on : pulling out (most likely close to a car parked in front) , clutching/steering , as well as being mindful of the traffic coming from behind.. Better off meeting the instructor outside town...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Stupid things overtaking drivers do?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭Allinall


    What does mph mean?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭dmc17


    Mightn't Pass Him. It's what you're thinking as you're driving on the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭beachhead


    The learner speeded up to prevent the experienced driver passing.That's what poster says.It's not just learners who do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭beachhead


    mph - mighty prick here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    What’s with the moronic responses here?

    OP likely was overtaking a car within the speed limit, when the car he was overtaking started speeding up like a lunatic. It’s a lethal thing to do by the other person and I have seen it a good bit more recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    When taking my ex-wife out driving, she would stop on blind corners to 'have a think. How we didn't get clattered is beyond me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Have you ever driven a car or are you just thick writing this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I've seen a learner stopping at the second set of lights at a junction, they can turn but the light is red for the drivers going straight



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    I've seen this a few times. I actually worry about these guys. I mean, who thought them to stop like that? Or are they doing their own thing, they really shouldn't be on the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Taking the OP at their word they must have been speeding as 75mph is 120km/h.

    So the only way he wasn't speeding was if he was on a motorway and if that was the case then he wouldn't be overtaking into oncoming traffic



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    OP here. There seems to be a few non drivers or micra drivers posting silly replies but this was a long straight part of the the road to overtake. Very safe to over take on. Most experienced drivers overtake a slow vehicle, it would be an unexperienced driver who would not. Remember this guy was driving at 40 mph (only experience drivers know what that is).

    The learner is a bad driver who decided to race me as I approached past him on the right. Obviously playing too much GTA at home. What I forgot to mention was that he was early 20s with his mates in the backseat and his experience full license driver beside him laughing his arse off. My passenger seen this

    I think I will invest in a camera for the dash so I can record this bullshit and report to garda.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator


    What were they driving? Just he jumped from 60-odd km/h up to 120km/h before you could get past, so pretty quick, especially for a fully packed car.

    How do you know the front seat passenger was an experienced full licence holder? Maybe none of his passengers had a licencea and he was being extra cheeky and driving unaccompanied.

    Also if you reported it to the Gardaí, you'd effectively be admitting to speeding so open to prosecution yourself.

    I'm sure the other driver would say they were driving at a safe speed while driving on twisty country roads and sped up when it was safe to do so and then some maniac came flying by trying to overtake well over the speed limit, with no camera it's easy for either side to paint the other as a villian.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    No. Again - They were overtaking at a reasonable speed when the nutjob that he was overtaking then sped up. Not tough to grasp it from the OP



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    This what makes me sick about posts , is all the knob end posters with their do gooder comments. Op must be speeding and on the wrong side of road! Jesus christ , how **** else way can you overtake! You drop the **** gear to 3rd and go. If we were all so righteous, there would be long tailbacks behind tractors and learners all over the country.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,256 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    as an experienced driver, the OP's correct response should have been to abandon the overtaking manouevre. the worst excuse for driving like an idiot is 'the other guy started it'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    That's okay to suggest but when the gap behind you closes as the car behind me was going to overtake as well because it was along clear stretch of the road. It's a typical overtake spot where 5 cars can scoup past tractor easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Riiiiight.

    But they said they then went to 120km/h which means unless they were on a motorway they were speeding! It's there in black and white.

    "That was until I went to over take the little **** and I was bombing it on the right side of the road doing 75mph, with a oncoming vehicle flashing me"


    OP never stayed what speed the other car went to.

    You overtake it it is safe to do so, there's nothing in legislation that allows you to exceed the speed limit to do so.

    As said above, an experienced driver should have backed out of the scenario if as painted by OP but then again the OP never stated what speed the other driver went to, only that he himself was 'bombing it'.

    Maybe OP could furnish some more details? Like the limit on the road?


    But just in case there is doubt:


    19 Overtaking


    19.—(1) A driver shall not overtake (or attempt to overtake) if to do so would endanger, or cause inconvenience to, any other person.


    (2) A driver shall not overtake (or attempt to overtake) unless he can clearly see a portion of the roadway which—


    (a) is free from approaching traffic, pedestrians and any obstruction, and


    (b) is sufficiently long and wide to permit the overtaking to be completed without danger or inconvenience to other traffic or pedestrians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    Wish it didn't, but it did, I was so **** pissed off. I'm always on the watch out for the little whippersnapper



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    I love when someone doesn’t get the responses they want on a thread, the story develops and more and more “details” emerge to try and get posters onside. Hilarious



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I dunno about some of the responses (might have been clarified since) /... The LD was driving at 20-30-40mph on leaving the town, and navigating the bends... The next speed mentioned was 75mph (not unusual for a novice to be extra cautious on bends, but there's little or no fear/trepidation for most people - even learners - to go at speeds around 70/80mph when they're driving (effectively) on a 'runway' , so to speak) on the straight.. In his OP, the OP makes no mention at what speed the LD was doing, when first the OP endeavoured to overtake the LD..

    What speed was the learner doing when first you signalled your intention to overtake OP? Btw, it sounds from your post that you done this at 40mph, and I agree with you that that was disgusting/criminal behaviour by the driver in front 😒



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,256 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    so now we have multiple cars bombing along a country road at 120km/h+



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well, if the learner was driving at a max of 40mph 'before' he got to the 'straight stretch' ; this would have allowed for plenty of time for traffic to build up behind.... And by 'Country Road' , perhaps he meant a road 'out in the Country' , which could well be a Main/National Road... Whatever about the legalities of it, there's many a Main Road (doesn't need to be a Motorway) where folk can happily drive along (and often do) at close to speeds of 80mph, and even above..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator



    Another interpretation of the incident is that some d*ckhead was tailgating a learner driver who was being cautious on backroads and then when he sped up on the safer straight stretch the same d*ckhead decided to overtake in to oncoming traffic because he was an impatient a**hole!


    Who can say for sure 🤷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Some of the responses here, honestly.

    It has to be people being fools for the sake of it, has to be. The situation was completely understandable for the OP to complain about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Still hoping OP can explain how he knew the person in passenger seat up front who was laughing away was an experienced driver?

    Or what the speed limit was?

    Or what the learner was driving?



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Indeed, that's very true!! 😊 I never even considered the possible 'tailgating' factor in the equation, as my natural reaction is to believe the OP, and for them to be an 'honest broker' 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator




  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭cavan_man2021


    You obviously take the bus! Up north we are real drivers, not pussies in buses playing on their phones!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,656 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Look at the join date, look at the post count, look at the controversial language in the op.


    You're here long enough not to be making rookie mistakes like that 🤣



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,256 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    QED.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doesn't matter how hard you are (as opposed to 'the pussies' down South), or anyone else 'up North' for that matter, when it comes to being 'real drivers' 😁; if you were tailgating a novice driver on a windy stretch of the road, then no matter how 'hard' , or 'real' he may be otherwise; it's got to be a serious mitigating factor against his putting the boot to the floor on the straight stretch.. So can you tell us whether or not you were right up behind the jacksie of a driver displaying L Plates... Bad form if you were...



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is all that... But current regular/prolific posters may well have joined up to post something similar...Needing to have a rant is perhaps often the impetus someone needs to sign up to a message forum! 😁.... Plus, when someone is annoyed/riled up they may not find it easy (nor even want to) to be diplomatic in their posting style.... Always like to give posters the benefit so I do...



  • Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    Learners are usually not bad in my experience, sometimes stall and sometimes a bit too slow but they don't seem to do anything outright dangerous. The worst drivers on the road are builders in vans and sorry to say it but really old people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Killinator


    N'ah hate the bus.

    Real drivers up North, yeah, sure, I'm sure Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren are all fighting to sign ya up



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,256 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    funny thing is, when out on the bike, there are certain car reg plates you kinda notice more than others in terms of dickish behaviour. this thread has not disabused me of some of my preconceptions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I’ve said it before but it’s worth stating again, those driving BMW, or Audis, with the German font on the reg are, almost, always utter prats.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,256 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's lads driving 15 year old passats with nurburgring stickers on them who are the ones you need to watch most of all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    We need to stop people learning how to drive. There are enough people on the roads already.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords



    Now we're getting to the meat of the issue op, what are you gonna do if you see him again?

    Gwan, tell us 🤔



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