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Beep scheme - anyone joining

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Same and showing for me too
    Aravo wrote: »
    Mine showing and I was in for weighing, vaccination and dung sampling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    Aravo wrote: »
    Mine showing and I was in for weighing, vaccination and dung sampling.

    Same here.
    A neighbour did the weighing and meal feeding and his is there also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Grueller wrote: »
    Not in amounts due for me either

    Same here


  • Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    Showing for me in amounts due , I feckin sent in all the information when herdplus said it was deadline and no need of it , but anyway it’s a nice jump from last years one , I’ll do it again if there next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭893bet


    Showing for me in amounts due , I feckin sent in all the information when herdplus said it was deadline and no need of it , but anyway it’s a nice jump from last years one , I’ll do it again if there next year

    Yeah. Money for jam. And the weighing is useful info.

    Hope it’s extended and added to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    One thing I liked about the weighing was being able to see the weight then after the calves were sold in the mart & see if the DWG added up! Two we sold in the mart after we'd weighed them at home gained 30kg each so both were fairly spot on for the average gain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Johnchaff


    Still nothing showing up on agfood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Just showing on mine now. Wasn't there earlier today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    emaherx wrote: »
    Just showing on mine now. Wasn't there earlier today.

    Same as. On now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,292 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Same here. Money for jam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Quick question: got weaning report today ( not in genomic suckler scheme) Is dam replacement index the same as stars for genomic? Or is beef traits added for overall stars? lot of 2 and 3 stars in dam rep index on this form but I'm moving away from milky type cows here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Why are you moving away from milky type cows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    I got mine too are u am fair confused with it tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Why are you moving away from milky type cows

    Find as they get older udder and teats harder for newborn to latch on, also want a calf drinking from all 4 quarters within 2- 3 weeks, ( any longer and cow sometimes gets sore on one or two quarters and mightnt let calf suck. Weaning and drying up also easier ( Almost zero mastitis last few years) May lose a bit of weaning weight but see no difference when cattle go to factory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭893bet


    Good to see that scheme also being renewed for a third year. Money for Jam this one.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/mcconalogue-to-launch-new-beep-s-in-next-couple-of-weeks/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭minerleague


    893bet wrote: »
    Good to see that scheme also being renewed for a third year. Money for Jam this one.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/mcconalogue-to-launch-new-beep-s-in-next-couple-of-weeks/

    just signed up for this year, did BPS same time, sign of the times but 60 - 70 % of profit for year with a few clicks of keyboard is hard to stomach somehow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Anybody able to rent scales yet through the co-op? The link for scales rental doesn’t work for me through the ICBF website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    Sugarbowl wrote: »
    Anybody able to rent scales yet through the co-op? The link for scales rental doesn’t work for me through the ICBF website.

    Got mine off kerry co op pain on the hole if I can I'll try buy my own this year
    But it should be gone through automatically from coop to icbf mine took 3 days to sort out
    I wrote down every cow calf and weights just in case they were lost


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭High bike


    Can we weigh Autumn born calves now,and Spring calves again in Sept /Oct or do we have to weigh all together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    High bike wrote: »
    Can we weigh Autumn born calves now,and Spring calves again in Sept /Oct or do we have to weigh all together

    To weigh Autumn born calves now and Spring born calves in the Autumn is ideal.
    As long as you weigh each cow and her unweaned calf on the same day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭pure breed


    High bike wrote:
    Can we weigh Autumn born calves now,and Spring calves again in Sept /Oct or do we have to weigh all together


    We've been weighing the Autumn calves and cows in early summer and the Spring calves and cows late autumn last couple years and its not a issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭amens


    I see animal health laboratories are now charging €35 instead of €25 for 2021. How much for the other labs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    amens wrote: »
    I see animal health laboratories are now charging €35 instead of €25 for 2021. How much for the other labs?

    Oldcastle were €35


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    Oldcastle labs are €35 also for now, they’re going to charge the last minute clients more as they don’t want an avalanche of dung at the last minute like last year.
    Their sample bottles are only half the size of last year also.
    Left mine in a couple of weeks ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Ye I got that email from Oldcastle as well, I found it was more beneficial to do the samples in September as at least then I knew what the level of fluke was in the cows and what to treat them with prior to weaning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭pure breed


    If a calf dies suddenly a week after being weighed for the scheme, does anyone know if you'll still get paid in this scheme for that cow and calf.
    Found a dead calf unfortunately this morning in the field, in perfect health and suckling last evening at 8pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    That’s a pity, i can’t see why you wouldn’t get paid for weighing him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Alibaba


    pure breed wrote: »
    If a calf dies suddenly a week after being weighed for the scheme, does anyone know if you'll still get paid in this scheme for that cow and calf.
    Found a dead calf unfortunately this morning in the field, in perfect health and suckling last evening at 8pm.

    Sorry to hear that
    Yes I think you will get paid.
    Just looked at the ts & cs of the beep s 2021.
    I'm not able to share it ( I must learn how to do that ) but.. line 6.16 says..
    ''' An eligible calf shall mean a calf which is alive at the time of weighing ''


  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭pure breed


    tanko wrote:
    That’s a pity, i can’t see why you wouldn’t get paid for weighing him.


    Yeah it's just that I was thinking they might needed to a certain age (this calf was only month old) and need to be kept on farm a certain period of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭hopeso


    pure breed wrote: »
    If a calf dies suddenly a week after being weighed for the scheme, does anyone know if you'll still get paid in this scheme for that cow and calf.
    Found a dead calf unfortunately this morning in the field, in perfect health and suckling last evening at 8pm.

    Was he vaccinated for blackleg?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭pure breed


    hopeso wrote:
    Was he vaccinated for blackleg?


    No not yet we usually do them at 6 weeks so we suspect that's the cause alright due to being so sudden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Dropped the samples for fluke in yesterday for testing (Farmlab). Took an hour to gather 10 samples from the cows in the morning, think they knew what I was at!

    Results back last night, all negative. Surprised how quickly they tested & sent out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    What dosing did you do for Liver and Rumen fluke this year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Just took the dung samples this morning and have them posted off. Like all things now a rise in prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Will probably go with levafas diamond, haven't used it in the past 4 years. On heavy ground here and the last year's beep dung samples were clear, but cattle killed in February march showed fluke, killed. A winter dose is vital as it's a perfect opportunity to break the fluke cycle. Rotation of produces is key



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Used noromectin injection back in June.

    Last year I used Leavas diamond which was very hard on the stock so I wasnt inclined to use it again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Levafas is hard as in it will leave them pebble dashing concrete for a few days as they clean out. But it is a sign of it doing the job found the thrive out of them was very good. The only dose cows get here is the winter dose and the odd 1st Calver a few weeks before breeding. My year and halves got their first dose of the year last week and the next will be housing. Only reason was there was a lot of hooses after the dry spell and the wet start of August.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    The only downside to Levafas is it only does adult fluke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    noromectin wont do anything for Rumen Fluke though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,380 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    We used Zanil a few years ago and at that time it was the only dose that killed rumen fluke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭hopeso


    Are there other options now? Are they all oral drenshes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Yep that will require a second dose. Always a better outcome, when dosing for adult fluke. 2 chance to hit them, provided you leave approx 6-8 weeks between doses. Usually dose within 2 weeks of housing and approx 2 months after housing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    I have weighing scales booked for next week, can i add a neighbour on to use the scales the same day?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭minerleague


    I'd say neighbour would have to book it ( and pay for it ! ) themselves for the same day wherever you get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Can do it, did it with an older neighbour back in july



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Can enter 2nd herd number as additional herd when booking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    Can you do that a few days after you make your own booking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Try amending your booking... might be able to add it then.

    Or else the co op or whatever might add it on when you’re collecting. It shouldn’t be an issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Not sure. Don't it twice but have the herd number at the time. Maybe the place renting it out can amend if the system wont let you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    Thanks, I’ll look into it on Monday.



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