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Irish women DeeJay's doing damage on the international scene

  • 18-10-2021 3:37am
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    I'm not the least bit nationalist, but it's encouraging to see homegrown talent none the less.

    Kind of reminds us that local opportunity is present for the rest of us, and we're not relegated/condemned to sit the back of an "Irish pub" sipping Guinness until our hair turns grey and our sex drive goes out the window completely.

    I think that point of view was imprinted on my brain since birth, having grown up in an Irish bog hole.

    But no!

    Wait.

    There's this Dublin lass giving-it-large at international festivals like Luminosity, Creamfields and Dreamstate.

    Right out of Dublin.

    You-go-girl!!

    I wouldn't have noticed she was Irish if she used a stage name, but this ethereal vocal sample hit me square between the eyes whilst I was rep'ing out some sumo-deadlifts a couple days ago.

    Checked the artist name and BOOM - homegrown.

    The track itself is even named after possibly my favorite red-line Luas stop.

    .....

    Now maybe there's some (most) among us for whom this style is not (i.e. this style is not for them), thus not acquainted with the particulars of Trance production.

    But this is some high level shit.

    Drops on point, melody flows to perfection, and that vocal sample.... other worldly.

    Between the likes of this and Catherine Martin's (Minister for Culture) initiative to overhaul night life culture, is Ireland truly relegating that historical oppressive (miserable) Catholic ethos to the history books?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Samuri Suicide


    Finish the bag and try to get some kip. You'll feel better on Wednesday.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Something a bit tragic about being off your tits on a Sunday night and spending it starting nonsense threads on a struggling message board.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,895 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    took me a bt to realise the thread title was being complimentary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,437 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Hi, yer wans manager/other half/Dad/mam whoever.



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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Oh, doing damage is a good thing

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,817 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's like 'sick' means 'very good' now.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How do you figure this message boards is "struggling"?

    It's traffic #'s blow every other Irish message board into low-earth orbit (though Vs r/ireland I don't know, traffic stats couldn't isolate that subreddit from the main site).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    This is the biggest message board in Ireland , is doing damage gen z slang for being successful



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Also, technically I'm not sure if Ashley Smith qualifies as Irish, but she does back-to-back sets with Maria Healy all the time so, I guess there's an argument to be made she's naturalized somewhat?

    Just saying though, it's nice to have a cutie that can get invested into electronic production cause let me tell you, that shit is, how you say?

    Psychologically draining.

    I mean let's face it, most chicks either find a man to latch onto, have a bunch of kids and spend the rest of their lives cashing child support cheques, or become sex workers (not that I condemn any of those choices).

    From my POV it's just nice to see a gal not only invest in, but become competent in an area that takes serious dedication, talent - and become successful at it.

    .....

    Girl power!!

    Not to mention I'm LOVING their sound.

    Tech/uplifting, explosive drops with haunting vocal samples;

    .....

    Large.

    .....

    'Nuff said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    All trance sounds the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Is OP the same person who started a thread about a junkie and his "gal" looking at him on the Luas?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It does and it doesn't Ub, it depends on your ear as it were. It is pretty samey, but then you could say the same thing of Irish trad, heavy metal, modern R&B, jazz, but those into those genres would be quick to call you on that. They can hear the subtleties and they're often not that subtle. I've heard people say the Rolling Stones stuff sounds the same, U2 as well. For feck's sake I've heard people say The Beatles' output all sounds the same to them and there are vanishingly few musical artists who had such a wide range of sounds and songs even genres.

    Now dance music in many ways have to keep to certain parameters or you'll have dancers dislocating their hips, or worse walking away, so the backbeat tends to not stray from its course, but then you have tensions building and releasing throughout with percussion and background fades with the listener being dragged along for the visceral ride of rises and drops. Someone like Beethhoven likely wouldn't like it at first listen, but he'd understand what they were doing(he did the buildup and release stuff like a boss. At one point he had cannons as percussion instruments. Cannons for feck's sake 😁). It would be much easier to argue that trance has more in common with a some classical music trends and "tricks" than most other popular music.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    bad means good, sick means cool, dj is short for disc jockey, theres no such word as deejay ,is there still people making trance music in 2021.like tv is short for television ,its not spelled teevee



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The first minute of most tracks sounds the same.

    That's because trance is typically produced and edited for live club or "raves" etc., not for radio play, and the first minute of each track is intended to establish the tempo with minimal melody to facilitate syncing and mixing into the preceding track.

    i.e. it rarely/ever gets radio play so it's designed primarily with mixing in mind.

    .....

    I can see where confusion arises, but no.



  • Posts: 864 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're confusing Beethoven and Tchaikovsky. Tchaikovsky had the cannons during the 1812 Overture.

    Perhaps they do sound the same to you after all 😉

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Tchaikovsky did indeed use cannon, but so did oul Ludwig in his Battle Symphony. In fairness cannons do sound the same to me. 😁

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trance still going? 50 year olds is it.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not a woman dee-jay but....

    Dublin man Paul Denton wrecking shop on Armin Van Buurens radio show as guestmixer, live now!!


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They weren't "looking".

    There were what is known as, "mad dogging" me.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Isn’t trance the sort of music gyms play during spinning classes to get auld ones motivated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭indioblack


    I think that was called "Wellington's Victory" if memory serves me right. I'm sure I had it on vinyl back in the days of - vinyl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mugged?

    lol

    Who the hell is going to mug me?

    .....

    ......

    I said I was being "mugged off",

    aka they were making an attempt at "disrespect", in this instance by way of "mad dogging";

    (technically British hip-hop slang meets US euphemisms).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Hold it down, boy, your head's gettin' blurred.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    lol kid, there's rarely a day goes by I don't get eye balled by some wanna-be tough guy, roided up juice heads with more deluded confidence than common sense etc. you name it. I think my personality just naturally attracts it.

    Just typically they're not with ridiculously hot girls (thus why I made that other thread).

    But when it comes time for the bad-violence they reliably just pull something bitchy, mince off and go find a safe space to cry about it (like the nancy boys they are).

    No one wants to get in a brawl they don't think they can win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Gotta love women DJ's. All that bouncing.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    None of these women djs will contribute anything new to edm.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can tell you're a glass-half-full type of individual.

    .....

    Not to mention being plain incorrect here. I absolutely love that opening track, as it seems to take many of the most cutting edge elements of trance from the last 20 years, ethereal vocals, early 90's style uplifting chord progressions, modern tech drops and I love those James Dymond'esque breaks (who's probably the best remixer in trance currently);

    Probably not co-incidence, as they're signed to the same booking agency (again, some Irish dude).

    And the fact that they're doing all this, whilst being women!

    Girl power!!

    ......

    How many half decent women producers are in EDM anyways, let alone a genre as technical and challenging as trance?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Name an edm genre invented by a woman dj, go on.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    lolwut?

    New genre's don't just get invented out of thin air.

    It's a process of evolution.

    And IMO that track in the OP IS in many respects cutting edge EDM, because it combines elements of historical trance genres into one.

    I heard James Dymond use the term "tech-lifting", i.e. tech combined with uplifting trance, and that style of tech/psy/acid mixed with some vocal/uplifting is essentially becoming a new genre in and of itself.

    What was yesterdays "progressive" trance is today's "uplifting" etc. Alls I know is I'm loving the sound of Maria Healy and Ashley Smith and it's a breath of fresh to have some legitimately talented women making an impression on a peripheral and largely underappreciated genre.

    .....

    But that's just like, my opinion man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    I don't see or hear gender when it comes to music, I only hear good music or bad music.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fair point.

    However one of the reasons this style of production has stand out appeal to me is because of any musical type, it seems to most accurately reflect the "pulsing" or electrical fire power of the nervous system.

    By that rationale, it's almost like an extension of the individual responsible for producing it.

    i.e. production = a combination of software talent (musical training and ability with DAW's), and the character of the individual creating the production.

    Men and women have biologically varied predispositions.

    Therefore it's super interesting for me at least to see what women can do in this realm.

    Historically let's face it, not so much.

    Most women involved in EDM have mostly been from a vocal recording approach or vocalists that DeeJay on the side (Jennifer Rene, Christina Novelli etc)

    The actual task of production itself, like I said, in such a technically challenging genre like trance? (not "Some Blonde" bounce house shit)

    ......

    Which is in part why I'm blown away by this latest production.

    Precision, creativity etc., easily rivals many of the long established top male talent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    They do actually. Might take a few years to catch on. All invested by men for some reason. Evolution isn't a gradual process anyway, happens suddenly.



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