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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,977 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    O and your 100% correct, just wanted to mention the backlash has started over on Liveline 😏

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It says they will be asked for a view. There was no mention of a full rollout of antigen testing from Martin and it's not mentioned on the website updates at all.

    gov.ie - Public health measures that will come into place on Friday 22 October (www.gov.ie)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Joe Duffy is really a joke and won’t allow any criticism of the hse



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    They'll be back for more restrictions in 3 weeks. Watch this space. They know people are generally spineless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Excuse me, what am I wrong about exactly?

    It emerged as a signal quickly. It was then disputed, such that Ireland continued to administer it after some countries had banned it (hence why we paid millions in settlements in the High Court this year). It took MANY years to reach a consensus on Pandemrix. Even you're trying to dispute that it's an issue in the above post.

    The signal that myocarditis is an issue for some demographics with COVID-19 vaccines, is of the same order as the signal back then for narcolepsy.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    What are the HSE to do, people needing non hospital care who test positive after admission, just discharge them?

    If someone tests positive 48hrs after admission, there's very little chance it was hospital acquired. Yet it will appear like that if you don't use common sense. Likewise, there's nothing stopping patients from mingling with visitors outside. Plenty of covid out there for people to be infected by visitors etc...

    It's not as simple as taking the number in hospital yesterday, adding the admissions, subtract the discharged and take that figure from the current days total and assume they are all being infected by HCW's etc..



  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    11 ICU beds free in the whole country

    this is third world sh1t



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,977 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    O I know, the Thread is great fun though, it's essentially a pass take of all things Joe Duffy "so to speak" 😄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 38,312 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Happy enough but some of those rules are comical and 'only in Ireland' territory

    Felt very anxious for the last week with the way the media were portraying the situation

    Gigs not allowed standing area is a bit of a bummer and hopefully something is sorted

    God help pubs in December



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    There is alot more than that. Hospitals shut down loads of wards in order to get more funding.

    I know a certain hospital claimed they only had 6 ICU beds last April yet in Jan they said they had over 20!!


    Its all about money, hospitals boards plays with people lives all the time



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  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭Mecrab


    So no standing at gigs but we will be able to dance in nightclubs.. Jesus christ this country *facepalm*



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Nobody will implement these crazy rules.


    I havent been asked for a covid pass going to be a pub in ages



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A man crippled with fear doesn’t want nite clubs opening till December 2023😂



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Agree 100%... Facemasks, distancing and table service in full capacity nightclubs is an interesting one



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Russman


    Kind of agree with you here tbh. Personally I think if they go with the COVID pass to enter a venue, then there shouldn't be a restriction inside said venue when you're in. I'm just back from a city break in Europe and it was COVID pass to enter, but that was it. I believe clubs were at 75%/80% capacity though, didn't seem like it to me. Actually now that I think about it, the restriction was applied to unvaccinated numbers and those with the pass didn't count towards the limit. Something like that anyway.

    As an aside, and I mean this genuinely, if you're anxious about the whole thing, step away from Boards for a while, or at least the restrictions thread, real life isn't nearly as bad as some portray on here. Its far from perfect, but most things are continuing on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,069 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    True enough, but while I would not have a lot of time for Varadkar, if Donnelly`s quotes last week are correct of 2/3 of those in ICU being unvaccinated and 1/3 in hospital the same then he would not be that far out on his figures.

    If Donnelly is correct it is unordinarily high number in both hospital and ICU for just 7% of the adult population.



  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    Its 11.30 and everybody gone by then at the moment.

    Now its moving to 12.30 with 30 minutes drinking up time and usually an extra 30 minutes garda grace so its 2 hours.

    With the option of going to a nightclub afterwards.

    It also makes a difference in a rural area where a lot of people arrive home on a Friday night but late enough due to travel etc. so only get to go out late.

    There was never a time limit on people sitting at home drinking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    I stole this from reddit or maybe here, but had the text saved so ...

    As I have posted before :

    (this was geared at workers ... but essentially the same) .. Imagine someone who is shy, anti social, works in IT. Pre Covid times they felt it when they were sitting at home on weekend nights, not out socialising, just sitting at home - maybe in their parents house playing on their console or PC. Deep down they'd feel they should be out meeting people, but hey , they can play games or watch TV to ease this.

    Now imagine when covid comes along - not only is that option gone and they have to stay home - they are being virtuous and a good science following person by doing so! Before they were a loser, now they are an upstanding citizen and they are "saving lives" by staying at home. And the best part is , they work in IT, they can work from home for 100% of salary.

    Now ask yourself why they would want this to end ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The capacity remains limited to how many people can be seated in line the the social distancing. These crumbs are not going to make the massive differences you think they are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    Believe it or not some of us don't like looking at the same 4 walls every day, and what a stupid analogy with the gamer thing. I always laugh when I read comments that paint a WFH job as some cushy number - I bet anything you do a day in my job and you'll be legging it out the door before lunchtime.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭MilkyToast



    Dengvaxia campaign was launched in the Phillipines in April 2016 after approved for commercial sale in December 2015. The campaign was suspended in December 2017 after it was found that it could cause more severe disease (hypothesised antibody dependent enhancement) in people who were vaccinated without having ever been infected with dengue. About 700,000 people had received at least one dose of the vaccination.

    It remains a fairly high effectiveness vaccine in use, but is only given to people who have previously been infected with dengue.

    Being told things "never" happen gets old. "There's not even any mechanism by which the mRNA injections could cause any serious side effects" was something being thrown about before the GBS, clots, myocarditis etc. came to light.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    Exactly, the “shur isn’t it great to be able to keep the table service” brigade don’t seem to be factoring in that keeping table service only means a capacity limit. So Johnny who finishes his shift at 10pm and wants to pop out for a pint won’t be able to get into the pub as they have already well maxed out their capacity limit by then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    I am coming over to Dublin next week and going to a gig in the Olympia Theatre that is standing (was originally meant to be 14 March last year and has been rescheduled numerous times since). Looks like I won't get in then if I understand the rules correctly



  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    They're a fiver in Aldi, or more expensive ones with more proven accuracy online. I've been antigen testing before visiting vulnerable family for months.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero


    I am just pointing out that its not the hour you said, its more like 2 on a Friday or Saturday night, you referenced no time limits at home, you said nothing about limited capacity.

    The capacity won't be enforced in every venue as thats been the case for a while now.

    I only go to places wheres covid rules are ignored, and when I hear that a place has dropped the covid theatre I frequent it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    What's the story with bars with a late license? Everyone seated until 12.30 and then the tables are cleared so everyone can boogie on the dancefloor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Nyero




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    A countdown like New Year's Eve as everyone waits for the clock to strike 12:30



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A save face statement. Does anyone honestly believe the content of these letters is not fully agreed between NPHET and the government prior to release to minimise the appearance of dissent. NPHET were told we were going to start using antigen testing based on the Ferguson review and put in that paragraph so it would appear they were in agreement.



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