All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

This is also one thing that always bugs me about these giant global conspiracies.

In this latest example, we have all governments, all businesses all scientists and medical organisations are all working together, possibly under the command of the WEF.

The level of control is so complete that there is no dissent from the plan and people are willing to lie and kill for it.

At this point, doesn't it mean that they already control everything? Doesn't it mean they've already won and have what they want?

It begs the question of why they need the pretext of fake pandemics/school shootings/terrorist attacks or whatever.

Sweden need to watch out! They thought they had immigration issues before! Belarus/Sudan/Niger probably not so much.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-stringency-index

The obvious question would be to ask who is involved in the conspiracy? Which countries and organisations and to what level?

But we won't get an answer partly because conspiracy theorists don't know, as the theory has no depth and is essentially makey uppey.

And because partly the smarter conspiracy grifters like to keep things vague so they can shift the goal posts and adapt their claims as much as possible. Conspiracy theorists here are just parroting the vagueries.

@ohnohedidnt The elephant in the room is the lack of reason for this theory. Why would western countries want to change to socialism?

Why are non-western countries of all political persuasions doing the same if it’s just for western countries?

PS. I suspect I’m on ignore for asking basic questions earlier in the thread 😂

Thats because those scientists are part of the conspiracy.

Thats the only option as it's just not possible for someone with no medical training or qualifications or any knowledge of medicine or virology can be wrong.

The thing about real conspiracy theories, by definition, is that all the facts are not out in the open, if they were it wouldn't be a theory right?

Then there's "conspiracy theories", where it's just a label, like Fauci and NIH funded GOF research at the Wuhan lab, The democrats funded Russian interference in to the 2016 election, Hunter Biden's laptop, things like that, even when the facts are out it still gets called a conspiracy theory, in those cases its just a label meaning things people don't want to hear/believe.

Only the latter type of "conspiracy theory" can be proven, but usually the people you try to prove it to, have already ignored the facts and don't want to know and will still call it a conspiracy theory after being shown proof.

So when you come on a conspiracy theory forum, and you don't believe either type of conspiracy theory, what is your goal, you either want proof of things which by definition can't be proven with the information currently available, or you want to ignore things you already don't want to believe, in which case it's easier to just ignore them completely and and not go on the forums? The only productive reason to go on forums like this is to counter other peoples theories with arguments of your own, but constantly asking for proof or details and thinking you're winning because people can't prove the currently unproveable seems like a huge waste of time.

I can't prove either suggestion I have put forward this morning, and my suggestions actually run counter to each other, so they're clearly just theories which I'm obviously not convinced about myself, which is why it's in a conspiracy THEORY forum. I don't KNOW if anything I'm saying is true, because it's a THEORY. So if you want me to break down a theory and tell you which countries and organizations might be involved, I can happily tell you which ones I THEORIZE might be involved, but no doubt rather than explain why you think I'm wrong, you'll ask me to prove I'm right, which I can't.

Who disagrees? Who says it's more deadly? I'll have a read.

I love lists of "here are all the things that evil socialists want to do", because when you examine the list you always find that the countries most allergic to socialism are already doing exactly those things and have been doing them for years, despite getting continuously less socialist.

Let's look at the US:

Jackboot authoritarianism, stopping and arresting people for no reason, arbitrary travel bans? Check

Freedoms based on compliance? Check.

Contrived conflicts and crises to justify printing money? Check.

Mass tracking of individuals and gathering of data with no controls or rules? That's a big check.

Mass propaganda campaigns, widespread gaslighting of the population? check check check.

Labelling of dissenters as terrorists, satanists and anti-American? Check

Ouch