Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

How is it 'deeply' flawed? It uses a different methodology than the Nate Silver one for sure, but they are not too far apart.

RCP Average: 43.9% Approve - 52.1% Disapprove, a -8.2 point spread

Nate Silver: 44.8% Approve - 49.5% Disapporve, a - 4.7 point spread

The approvals are only 0.9 apart but the disapprove is 2.6% apart. RCP average has a larger spread for sure, but they both are in negative territory for Biden.

Which poll do you accept as the most accurate, and if that poll shows Biden doing badly will you accept it?

Also, what makes you think that Biden's polls are holding steady and will stay steady for the next few years? Blind hope and optimism? You dont think he can recover? I think that says it all tbh.

You don't understand.

Some polls aren't favourable and SNL did a skit slagging him.

It's the worst presidency EVER! He's just as bad as Trump!

He's done so much wrong! He hasn't done enough!

The buck stops with him! Other people are pulling the strings.

And so forth....

You guys would probably be better off starting a separate thread where you can post this kind of juvenile drivel to your heart's content.

You have provided zero evidence of that. Zero. All you proved is that Biden is not the perfect president by listing some things you believe he has done wrong.

• Zero evidence? How about the main issue I have mentioned constantly - Biden is so weak that the "progressives' have him pursuing a spending spree which he did not mention in his campaign and which runs counter to his entire political record.
• This may shock you to your very core, but every single US president has made mistakes. Listing some mistakes of a particular president does not indicate the strength of that president. You need to compare and contrast that list to previous presidents. And, not only have not done that for several presidents, you seemingly cannot do that for any previous president, and yet you've somehow managed to come to the conclusion that's he the weakest president in modern history. Impressive.
• You're back to your "write a comparative history of US Presidents" malarkey. Here's how a chat board works. I make a claim and give my reasons. If you think there was a weaker President, you give your reasons. Funny thing, you and all the other Biden fans fell into a ridiculous trap. You all nominated Trump as the weakest President. So, tell me - when did Trump cease to be the greatest threat to modern civilisation? Or were you relaxed for the previous four years, secure in the knowledge that he was too weak to do anything serious?

Yes. Did you read the facts the I responded with? Not the opinions, but the facts?

Would you like to explain how Biden's rating is "lower than any other previous President" as you state? It's significantly higher than the last president, it's significantly higher than e.g. Ford's rating and, as I said, every president of the last 50 years has had a similar rating during their first term.

• I grant you Gerald Ford but I didn't count him because he didn't need to be popular, he was never elected.

Give some examples then. Seems like you're struggling for reasons to dislike Biden.

• Who said I disliked Biden? He is weak but I think he could be personally agreeable, in a sort of grandfatherly way. He should ditch the aviator glasses at his age.

No, you didn't. You gave several examples, and as I said above, you can pick out examples from any previous president and declare them as being weak domestically. Compare and contrast, otherwise you are being disingenuous.

• You have lost me. Are you arguing that "several examples" does not equal "many examples"? Or is this another case of "I will not deign to consider your opinion unless you write the definitive history of the United States"?

I see you have no concept of what a weak president is. First you stated a strong president is someone who use his party for personal power, and now a weak president is someone who leads a party of independent, critical thinkers rather than sheep. Have you ever considered moving to Russia at all? Seems like you might like that regime.

• The main reason we are arguing at cross-purposes is that you confuse "weak" with "bad". As I said before, it is too early to judge if Biden will be a bad President i.e. if he will do more harm than good to the United States. Part of the current malaise in the US is the accumulation of power in the hands of its Chief Executive. That would require a history lesson but Obama's Executive Orders certainly ramped up that centralisation of power which the Founding Fathers wished to prevent. Biden's problem is that he can't exercise the enormous power of his office because his party is ideologically split and he is only their leader by default i.e. no one else could stop Bernie.

No, it really isn't. Being a narcissist is one of the more obvious signs of weakness.

• Powerful leaders were usually egotistical. Julius Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin, Mao. I don't equate these men morally but each unquestionably powerful. Biden is their mirror opposite. Only spiritual figures seem capable of being great leaders without egos.

No, he really wasn't. And his constant crying after he lost his election just shows him as the weak little bitch that he is.

• His behaviour since he lost is horrible but not weak - he is fighting back and if he got a rematch in 2024 (spare us!), he might even change the result.

Polls are a joke, you could easily tie them to one party or the other. They've been way out many times recently too.

I think Biden has a decent approval rating personally from watching things.

Interesting you say that the Nate Silver poll is more accurate and the RCP one 'deeply' flawed

Did you know that the Nate Silver poll was more wrong than the RCP average of polls in the 2020 presidential election?

The end result was: 51.4 vs 46.9 a 4.5 point spread

RCP was 51.2 vs 44.0 a 7.2 point spread

Nate Siver was 53.4 vs 45.4 an 8 point spread

Therefore the RCP average was the most accurate of the two...... oh dear, awkward!

Ill mention this when I post up future RCP polls :)

No, they've just demonstrated that they don't know the difference between correlation and causation. A long standing issue with the right