Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

You keep saying this, it is rather juvenile.

These people are making decisions that affect all of our lives and your advice is "Just don't watch it".

Personally I would rather have my eyes open while I'm being fucked over. I still end up fucked but at least I knew when to brace myself.

I'm going to go with late November and the cases probably quite high.

The pubs open Friday and everyone has been told for the last two weeks that it is the dirty unvaccinated who are driving the cases.

People are going to let their guard down and flock to the pubs and restaurants in the belief that they are protected.

Current cases rates are too high(ish) to be put down to unvaccinated spread.

Unvaccinated icu rates will probably start to drop after a bit as the virus tears through with the most vulnerable of the unvaccinated.

Dunno about hospitalisations as the last breakdown I could find on vaccinated vs unvaccinated was in September (if someone has an updated breakdown that would be appreciated).

Of course, the caveat here is that this is all speculation by some randomer on the internet.

And what's his reward for pie in the sky modelling that have cost billions?

The lad would need to unzip his fly to count to 11.

12 extra in a day? Has to be outbreaks!!

A drop in hospitals numbers today again as well in general, and with most likely a decent discharge number again tonight.. that icu figure is astonishing in its rise and fuçk all explanation as to why there’s such a sudden increase!

It may be possible to figure out where by looking at the daily reports from the hse on icu capacity and hospitalisations.

Haven't there been rumours of outbreaks in limerick and galway hospitals?

"Highest" i'd imagine.

And you accuse me of being juvenile?

I was responding to a poster who claimed nobody wants to see the briefings.

You are obviously not one of those.

No, the total is the highest since mid-March when it was 80-90. The only caveat with our current numbers is that they can yo yo a bit.

All here.

Punctuation; it's important.

One of the things we also have to consider is that the unvaccinated are not uniformly distributed across the country. Birds of a feather and all that, someone who refuses to get vaccinated is more likely to be within a social circle of people who broadly refuse to get vaccinated too.

That is, if you pick 300 adults at random right now, you will find ~92% are fully vaccinated. But adults don't distribute themselves at random. If you examine one 300-person wedding tonight, it's most likely the vaccination rate amongst them will be 99%+. While another wedding down the road might only have 30% vaccinated.

Thus, non-hospital outbreaks can have a very swift impact on hospital resources. An outbreak amongst a large group of unvaccinated 20-somethings will probably result in absolutely nothing. Where an outbreak in a large group of unvaxxed 60-somethings will lead to hospitalisations and ICU admissions.

This is why we see admissions jump in multiples rather than dribs and drabs. Because the most serious infections are now relatively clustered within unvaxxed social groups.

Please don't present your opinion as a fact. The profiles of unvaccinated people in other countries are widespread, and cut across ages, incomes, educations, location, motivation for remaining unvaccinated, etc. E.g. it's certainly the case that some proportion have low levels of education and some proportion are better educated than 99% of people.

The reason admissions jump is because, major surprise, it's an airborne virus and because all people are at risk of hospitalisation regardless of vaccination status.

No its not a secret unvaccinated club but the poster is right . You will get a certain demographic of people who are less likely vaccinated , for example Roma or East European groups . They tend to socialise together not because they are unvaccinated but they mix with each other anyway

I know a good few Polish who are not vaccinated and they tend to socialise with each other .They were mixing before vaccines were on stream but of course were influencing each other

I know a girl in her 30’s not vaccinated who hangs around with like minded people and they are all not vaccinated . They were hanging around before Covid and some strong voices in that group influenced others in the group

I know a couple getting married in November who are not vaccinated . She told me they have to have their wedding in her house with caterers as most of her guests are not vaccinated

This all makes intuitive sense, but it's anecdotal. There have been LARGE surveys (i.e. of millions of people) in other countries, and the profiles of people who choose to not be vaccinated are broad.

No doubt there are similar mindsets in tiny subsections of society but this is not a broad issue such that these entire groups are being hospitalised in batches. The chances of needing hospitalisation from COVID-19 are miniscule for most people, with or without vaccination.