Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

It was not I who said the RCP average was deeply flawed and the Nate Silver polling was the gold standard benchmark.

When I pointed out to you that the RCP average poll of polls was more correct in 2020 than Nate Silver you brush it off. Nate Silver was also very wrong about many Congressional races in 2020.

Inconvenient truths.

I'll end by saying, I don't hold one of them to be massively superior to the other, hence to my mind they are both different but equally valuable.

Oh dear... Biden's Approval rating keeps on falling...

The first time the Nate Silver poll has him at greater than 50% disapproval..

I guess this is what holding steady looks like. :)

I see people are going to keep having a go about approval ratings and not criticise any of his policies.

Curious.

You blew off my climate offer but you sucked me back in with your nonsense about Biden’s polls. I already gave you Gerald Ford. (Let this be Biden’s epitaph- “More Popular than Ford!”). Clinton had a famously rocky start to his Presidency (thanks,Hillary!) but his ratings (i.e. his Gallup approval ratings, the only consistent series we can use) were higher than Biden’s in October 48% v. 43%.

I picked one big thing, climate, to give Joe a chance to prove himself but you lack confidence in your own man (come on, you know he can’t deliver on big things!)

I’ll check back here in January and I think his defenders will have dwindled and the excuses will have multiplied. Maybe Joe will have come out of his bunker and done another interview by then. Maybe Pelosi’s 31 October deadline for the “Infrastructure” Bill will have vanished.

A parting thought: the fiasco in Afghanistan was driven by Biden’s need to appear strong. He had to be “the decider” so he ignored the military who wanted to keep a residual force. He wanted to establish his place in history on the 20th. anniversary of 9/11. But just not how he imagined it.

Yeah, I’m the one who’s incredibly blinkered, because I don’t see that the withdrawal was a success.

I thought Team Biden would save the old “separation of powers” defence until later, when his legislative programme can’t be salvaged and his party is at each other’s throats.

But thanks. As I say, weakest President of modern times.

He's President until 2024. You should probably get used to that instead of desperately clinging to these inconsequential polls. It's getting embarrassing for you at this stage.

Depends on what you are actually looking for. Trump gave plenty of 'interviews', although never with CNN or the like. He was great at being 'interviewed' by his people, lying and simply making completely made up stuff. Plenty of soft ball questions, many simply statements about how awesome Trump was and asking him to explain how he is able to be so great. He was very rarely actually properly questioned, fact checked or held to account.

Was there really any value to any of those 57 interviews?

What we do know is that Biden came in with Covid as No1 item on his agenda and he has done an amazing job, particularly with the irresponsible talk and actions by Trump, the GOP and a massive section of the population which seem intent on ignoring the cause of the country for their own narrow aims.

2 was undoing the climate damage, in particular reasserting US leadership in Paris Accord.

3 was getting out of Afghanistan.

He has made significant strides or fully completed these. Compare that with Trump who achieved none of his stated targets.

So, sure, if all you want is to count the number of times a person lies to you as a positive then Trump was way ahead. Start counting the number of tweets and he was the most talkative POTUS ever. Unfortunately, he also stopped the daily press briefings, limited press access and lied nearly every time he talked.

More people have died of Covid because of Trump, the GOP and their supporters refusing to get on board with the needs of the country, putting their own narrow selfish goals (owning the libs) over the needs of their fellow citizens. Trump continues to refuse to endorse the very vaccines he wanted the country to give him 100% credit for, even claiming that the companies had slowed down production to avoid giving him credit.

US is out of Afghanistan. Job done. Disaster? Not really. How many US people were killed? Very few. They are finally out of that quagmire.

The reason he is hurting is multi. Part of it is that a sizeable chunk of the population don't even believe is is the legitimate POTUS. Many others wouldn't care what he did since he is a socialist/communist or whatever. Many still don't see any benefit to them personally as the economy continues to bump along, due to the continued reticence of so many to take the vaccine.

You are not not judging him with any degree of unbias. If you are an example of peoples biased view of Biden then it is no surprise that he numbers remain low.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-easily-outpaced-obama-trump-010800252.html