Murder at the Cottage | Sky

chicorytip · 19-10-2021 3:55pm

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Brave girl !!!

The Garda Siochana is not endemically corrupt. You always expect to find a few bad apples in any state institution. Have any of these outed coppers been charged with aiding and abetting serious criminal activity? Fixing a few speeding fines or quashing penalty points, yes. The retired superintendent accused in relation to the most publicised of these incidents will not ,it now transpires, face any charges.

19-10-2021 7:43pm

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There's no power overruling it, and although Harris has inherited decades of corruption to sort out, he's unlikely to at the level thats needed.

There's always good Gards, like there's always good priests, but that doesn't make the undercurrent of a corrupt organisation any healthier. It's endemic, and goes to the core.

The problem with power plus no oversight is it always leads to corruption: history attests to this fact the world over.

I'm an anarchist though, so perhaps more sceptical than you.

drumm23 · 19-10-2021 10:51pm

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Agree.

I mean who among us hasn't torn a few pages out of a book of evidence for a massive murder case?

Could happen to anyone.

19-10-2021 10:53pm

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😂😂😂😂

flanna01 · 20-10-2021 7:50pm

Ian Bailey has a new residence now, and an attractive lady friend. He should be allowed to get on with his life in peace.

I am of the opinion that there was a grave miscarriage of justice done to both Du-Plantier and to Bailey.

Sophie Du-Plantier's murderer has got away scott free, her family have no closure.

Bailey has had his life ruined for the last 25yrs - All based on what? Sweet shag all..!!

How in this day and age, an innocent man can be persecuted relentlessly without one grain of evidence against him is jaw dropping. In fact its criminal!

I wish Bailey the very best of luck for the future, may he find peace and comfort in his new life away from Jules, and I truly hope he settles into something resembling normality in his latter years.

The people who keep condemning him should take a look in the mirror... Today it's Bailey's life that has been destroyed, tomorrow it could be yours.

20-10-2021 9:12pm

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Completely agree. Life is much harder for him now as it is, because of who he is, trying to rent etc. I wish him all the happiness in the world.

Obviously actually getting his name cleared is his ultimate goal and I really hope its possible.

If the people of Bantry who know the truth will talk that is. Even then, it's hard to prove and IB knows it.

chicorytip · 21-10-2021 5:03pm

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I imagine the attractive lady friend also happens to be the owner of the residence Ian is now inhabiting/cohabiting. A brave lady, or probably completely foolish. One of his internet devotees,no doubt. She would be advised to sleep with one eye open.

21-10-2021 5:11pm

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Nope, pretty certain that isn't the case.

jimwallace197 · 21-10-2021 5:14pm

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😂🤣😂, yah, Ian's going to do her in the middle of the night after a few whiskeys, sure. Get back to his murdering ways I reckon now that he's probably happier than he's been in years. Makes sense to people like you I suppose.

The absolute spite off your post, far too many bitter people in Ireland.

21-10-2021 5:23pm

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Totes Jim. Along with all the other women he's murdered over the years 😂🤣😅🤦‍♀️

The Gardaí terrified the local community by implying he would kill again, that in fact he would become a serial killer. I expected better from this thread. 🙄

saabsaab · 21-10-2021 6:05pm

Harris said he would consider looking at the case again. I guess it may be a decision made by Government or under pressure from overseas.

flanna01 · 21-10-2021 6:30pm

Bailey's new residence was supplied by a friend, basically helping him out (As friends do..)

The lady friend is from Mayo originally, met Bailey through his 'Justice for Sophie & Justice for Ian' campaign.

Of course that doesn't bode well with the snipers and trolls..

Sounds better if you put a spin on it... ''Serial killer Bailey convinces fan to give up her home for Bailey to live in, family fear she may be the next victim''.

Now.. That'll sell the papers and feed the trolls won't it...?

tinytobe · 21-10-2021 8:00pm

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The thing is that there were no killings of that nature in the area ever since the Sophy Toscan du Plantier murder. Bailey, suspect or not, he sure didn't kill again, if he really was the killer at all, which I doubt very much.

Darc19 · 21-10-2021 8:38pm

Another example of gross incompetence by gardai

Jury accepted that so called "specialist" gardai made sure the children said certain things so that they could string up an innocent person.

I sincerely hope that this person get the very substantial compensation he deserves for the Garda corrupt investigation.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/creche-worker-acquitted-of-sexually-assaulting-three-girls-in-his-care-1.4707185

jimwallace197 · 21-10-2021 8:58pm

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Again, no problem in ruining an innocents mans life, he's had to live with these accusations for nearly three years, god knows how that has affected him psychologically. These so called gards get to walk away scot free because they have immunity. Its sickening & is a relevant reminder in relation to this case.

No gard has properly been reprimanded, disciplined or prosecuted with regard to the removal of key pieces of evidence in this case, the bribing of witnesses with drugs from evidence room, the intimidation of people who knew of Ian in the locality & the falsifying of statements especially from Jules Thomas, the list goes on.

People may think things have improved since the time of Bailey's arrest but this case & others show if anything, its gotten worse.

Meanwhile, GSOC sit there doing the sum total of nothing as usual. Sitting round picking up nice paychecks. Might as well be pissing against the wind while citizens of this country get attacked by the very people that are meant to protect them. Sick.

21-10-2021 9:01pm

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I imagine....

Yes, you do imagine.

I am me123 · 21-10-2021 9:06pm

Anyone know is this on Netflix or even YouTube?

Thank you.

jimwallace197 · 21-10-2021 9:20pm

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You can find a heavily biased documentary against Ian Bailey because it was produced by a relative of STDP on Netflix. If you have sky or a way of watching sky, theres a much better one by Jim Sheridan on that. Youtube, not great. Theres a really good podcast too on it called West Cork if thats your thing.

saabsaab · 21-10-2021 9:43pm

On the nine 'missing' pages from the 'jobs books' would there be any unofficial records kept by anyone involved? Sometimes notes are kept by individuals to write up the jobs (I'm told) could these still be somewhere?

tinytobe · 21-10-2021 9:46pm

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I think the Guarda corruption weighs very heavily on the murder case of Sophie Toscan du Plantier.

How come they had gotten Marie Farrell to give false whiteness statements?

Or given money and drugs to Martin Graham to get close to Ian Bailey?

What was the motive of the Guards for this? Obviously to cover something or for somebody up or get something in the wrong direction.

If the Guards had done a decent job, none of this would have happened.

This all points to the so often mentioned Guard from Bantry in this discussion.

robwen · 21-10-2021 10:49pm

His Twitter bio says he is currently looking for a small place to live and write

chicorytip · 21-10-2021 11:28pm

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The particular post was made (partly) in jest. Ian has a bit of the "house devil" about him. We know this. Just ask Jules.

Treppen · 22-10-2021 12:08am

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Can you provide a link to that imagination?

OwlsZat · 22-10-2021 9:22am

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How much did that fiasco cost the tax payer. You'd imagine there is fairly serious compensation yet to come too.

flanna01 · 22-10-2021 3:52pm

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I doubt there will be any compensation dished out at this stage....

Apart from the acknowledgement of accepting some form of 'corruption / wrong doing / incompetence' it's better to let sleeping dogs lie.

If compensation was on the cards, it would have happened within ten years of the crime - It hasn't, and it won't.

I suspect that this case is still a thorn in the side of the Government, any armchair detective with half a brain can see the gross negligence of the investigation.... Yep.. it's best to keep referring to it as an on-going investigation.

And obviously, you can't comment on any on-going investigations.

Hopefully, in another 50yrs all relevant parties to the case will be dead and buried anyway... (Chief Justice: Thinking out loud).

chooseusername · 22-10-2021 4:48pm

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"If compensation was on the cards, it would have happened within ten years of the crime - It hasn't, and it won't."

Alleged crimes 6 years ago , tried last year, jury failed to reach a verdict.

More like police incompetence than corruption, I'd say.

It's a disgrace if this incompetence/ corruption has ruined this man's life.

On the other hand , it's a disgrace if it allowed a guilty man to go free.

tinytobe · 22-10-2021 7:10pm

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I don't think that Bailey has any chances of compensation. I think there was already some kind of libel case against the newspapers, but never against the police and their handling of the matter? ( giving drugs to Martin Graham and getting Marie Farrell to make false statements)

Plus from an Irish perspective he was never convicted, as there was no evidence against him, also an extradition to France has been ruled out. The Irish courts have no jurisdiction over the French courts.

I'd say the only chances Bailey would have had, was in an EU courtroom. The odds would have been very much in his favour, as again, there is absolutely no evidence that he is actually the murderer. The EU court would not have come up with anything else than the Irish courts.

However, I don't know, if it was financially possible to pay any solicitors at this stage.

briany · 22-10-2021 7:39pm

It may be that the documentary badly mischaracterised how the French justice system works, at least when it comes to murder, but based on the little I have seen of how it works in that capacity (from this documentary) that I'd hate to be facing it if I ever found myself in the frame for such a crime where the only thing tying me to it was some circumstantial evidence and unsteady witness testimony.

champchamp · 22-10-2021 8:10pm

Good article here about the coat and other things:

https://crimeguy.com/articles/the-disappearing-magic-coat

Edit: published on Aug 31st so it have have been linked to here before...

tinytobe · 22-10-2021 8:30pm

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The thing is on this we also may not have the full information on things. The matter does however shed a very bad light on the French judicial system. It sounds to me that the judiciary was doing the Toscan du Plantier family a favour.

I'd personally would fear for my life, if a court could convict me to 25 years in prison, for a crime they had absolutely no evidence off and this is exactly what happened.

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