Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

Good old DMURS, creates lethal hazards by a conflict of priorities.

Several roundabouts in the DLR area were reverted back to their previous unmarked traffic lanes because of massive local pushback over the danger it created.

The danger was created by inattentive motorists inability to pay attention to signage and markings and yield to priority. Funnily enough, the very same roundabout designs operate seamlessly in other countries. What is it about irish motorists?

I can't believe I agree with Larbre about something... it's a **** design that creates conflict and endangers cyclists.

He says in his subtitles that he signalled, and you can just about see him move his right hand.

Piss poor driving and piss poor infrastructure aren’t mutually exclusive. He was also dumped out onto the roundabout from the off road cycle track right at the exit, one exit earlier.

Indeed. However in Ireland, its mandated as best design practice. How wonderful.

I know ye are sick of me as a broken record on this stuff, but after it all, I DO cycle regularly, my family does too and I care more than anything about our safety. What I hate about how infrastructure for cycling is developed in this country, is how inconsistent the designs are, how dangerous much of that design is (including drainage camber, manhole covers, upright obstacles etc) and how lacking in ambition the contiguous and segregated routes are.

Has anyone noticed the roadworks on the Grange Road, Rathfarnham? They have been going on since about May/June and virtually no progress is being made over the last 2 months. The general idea is to improve things for cyclists. However on one place the footpath has been widened and the existing cycle lane narrowed (near Loreto Beaufort School). A deliberate creation of a cyclist killing-zone in my opinion. As part of the same project there is a half-completed attempt to divert a cycle lane inside a new traffic island at which there will be a bus stop. I can't see many cyclists making the appropriate sharp diversion inside the island.

Further up Grange Road, beyond the entrance to St Enda's SDCC a few years ago widened the footpaths on both sides of the road, just after the existing cycle lanes ended. They could have easily accommodated a cycle lane in the Southbound (uphill) direction, but for some reason created a danger to cyclists instead.

I'm generally no fan of the more militant cyclists, but the sheer incompetence of SDCC's road engineers is really annoying. The same people have also produced a truly wonderful traffic-jam-creating roundabout in the Knocklyon area.

I know you are joking a little, but the Knocklyon roundabout is a jam-creator, (a) because it has been narrowed to only one lane and (b) because the entrances and exits now require very sharp turns which slow everything down (more than is necessary for safety in my opinion). Moreover this is on a road giving access to the M50.

There is nothing more wasteful or carbon-emitting than a queue of jammed cars waiting to negotiate an artificially contrived bottleneck. All of this was created in the name of some enhanced cycleway, and I see very few cyclists in the area.

What's more wasteful and carbon-emitting is a row of cars moving without a bottleneck, because there'll be more of them due to induced demand.

You know what's not wasteful or carbon-emitting? Users of an enhanced cycleway! 😀

Yours, an apparently militant cyclist.

My original post (#3171) was in large measure a complaint about badly-designed and even dangerous provision for cyclists. Bad design can lead to congestion and risky situations for everyone, motorists and cyclists. I see that the conversation has now turned into some kind of anti-car thing. A huge amount of travel in Dublin is by car because of (a) bad public transport, (b) the need to carry home a lot of shopping, (c). long or awkward journeys which are virtually impossible by bus, bicycle or walking and (d) the increasing number of seniors who in many cases are not into cycling or long-distance walking. Motorists don't drive just for the hell of it.

I almost regret drawing attention to cyclist-unfriendly roadworks!

I'm pretty sure at the time it was being built (and causing a lot of angst amongst locals) that the SDCC specifically stated that two of the intended purposes or the roundabout were to slow cars down in the area and to make driving a less attractive option, while encouraging cycling. As a resident of Knocklyon I can assure you that the cause of traffic jams in the area is due to huge amount of wholely unncessary journeys taken by people, for school drop offs, to GAA and other sport training, to Super Valu etc, not any cycleway or roundabout.

The "enhanced cycleway" is poorly designed in my opinion as it is a shared pedestrian and cyclist space and forces those on bikes to become pedestrians and cross at the pedestrian lights at junctions. So it is not surprising that many (including myself on many occasions) choose not to use it.