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Hawkins Wood, Greystones

  • 21-06-2021 4:23pm
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    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I see from this that we will soon have some more Glenheron / Archers Wood styled homes (which look very smart) close to Charlesland:

    https://www.cairnhomes.com/new-homes/hawkins-wood/
    Hawkins Wood is a new development of 2,3 & 4 bedroom houses and duplex in the picturesque and family friendly seaside town of Greystones. The site is situated across the road from Glenheron, another prestigious Cairn development. Located within easy reach of the N11, this location has great transport links into Dublin.

    Has anyone any idea what they will cost?

    They have the usual POA on their website which always makes me wary as it seems to be code for “we will screw you for as much as we can”.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    This is basically more Glenheron, right? I think that to date people have spoken of it as another phase of Glenheron?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    awec wrote: »
    This is basically more Glenheron, right? I think that to date people have spoken of it as another phase of Glenheron?

    I thought it was a completely separate development, but I’m open to correction.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    2011 wrote: »
    I thought it was a completely separate development, but I’m open to correction.

    I think it's across the road from Glenheron beside the leisure centre, so it's separate, but I think most assumed when Cairns put in planning etc that they'd just extend Glenheron across the road.

    Or maybe this is a different one entirely.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    awec wrote: »
    I think it's across the road from Glenheron beside the leisure centre, so it's separate, but I think most assumed when Cairns put in planning etc that they'd just extend Glenheron across the road.

    Its Cairn alright, probably the same as Glenheron but I imagine they will cost a lot more, I am curious as to how much more.

    They look like nice well built houses but they are a little too tightly packed together for my liking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    2011 wrote: »
    I see from this that we will soon have some more Glenheron / Archers Wood styled homes (which look very smart) close to Charlesland:

    https://www.cairnhomes.com/new-homes/hawkins-wood/



    Has anyone any idea what they will cost?

    They have the usual POA on their website which always makes me wary as it seems to be code for “we will screw you for as much as we can”.

    Pricing will presumably be along the lines of Archers Wood which is 470 for a 3bed terrace and 490 for 3bed semid


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Pricing will presumably be along the lines of Archers Wood which is 470 for a 3bed terrace and 490 for 3bed semid

    I would think that this will only be the case if was put on the market at the same time as phase 1 Archers Wood. I would expect phase 2 Archers Wood homes to cost more as this is what developers tend to do.

    Another factor is the address, although beside Archers Wood (postal address Delgany but although nowhere near Delgany) I think the Greystones postal address will be used to jack up the price even further (despite the fact that in reality it is far more Charlesland than actual Greystones).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    Delgany & Greystones prices are generally the same in my experience. Neither of the estates could be considered close to town, although I would prefer Hawkins if I was buying.

    I would also think that the HTB cap of 500k would probably prevent them going too much above Archers prices.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Delgany & Greystones prices are generally the same in my experience.

    Yes, I think you might be right.
    Neither of the estates could be considered close to town, although I would prefer Hawkins if I was buying.

    So would most people I suspect. Knowing this I expect they will increase the price accordingly.
    I would also think that the HTB cap of 500k would probably prevent them going too much above Archers prices.

    I don’t think so seeing as though 4 beds in Archers Wood have already sold for far more than this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    2011 wrote: »
    Yes, I think you might be right.



    So would most people I suspect. Knowing this I expect they will increase the price accordingly.



    I don’t think so seeing as though 4 beds in Archers Wood have already sold for far more than this.

    Yes sorry I should have been more specific. I was referring to the 3 beds prices as to why I don't think they'll be much more growth above the 490 3bed semid. 4 beds have been well over 500k for a while now so they are different kettle of fish and not targeted at the typical first time buyers


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I heard some pretty crazy prices for Hawkins Wood. Three beds semis for €520!

    Anyone else hear anyhting?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    No haven't heard anything yet. Know someone looking to buy one it's been total silence regarding pricing and completion dates from the agent.

    Where did you heard 520k from. That's strong money!



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    The fact that the prices are a closely guarded secret does not bode well for those looking to purchase. I expect that this means that they feel that they can ratchet up the prices more the longer they leave it.

    I met someone working on site in the pub and he shared the above price with me. Maybe he was exaggerating, but I don’t think so. Outrageous price in my opinion but I think that some will still pay this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    I have secured one of the 3 beds, had my choice off the plans.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    congratulations!

    Can you advise of the pricing for different house types?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    what I am paying, is for a 3bed.

    Post edited by Viscount Aggro on


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    That is a lot cheaper than I was led to believe. The look well built.

    Is that for the 3 storey terraced?

    What is the heating system, is it a heat pump?

    What BER are they?

    I think you will start a stampede!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    I know someone who has been waiting on the release for a long time. How did you manage to secure one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Cairn shareholder.

    Bought one as an investment.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I don't think you could go far wrong with that.

    €535K is a great price.

    I wonder if that is the price that they will be sold to the general public at?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 mitesh


    Thats Fantastic. is it Mid-terrace, semi, end-terrace? Do that share that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Catherine Hogan


    I've been asking the selling agent for months for a price ,still nothing disclosed

    Does anyone think €535 is the price for 3 beds ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lakeroad


    The latest phase in Archers Wood was €515k-530k for 3 beds which would indicate Hawkins Wood will potentially start at €535k or above



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Wow!

    Only 5 months ago €520k seemed outrageously high and now €535k seems a possibility !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Addy04


    Thats true! when enquired Agents about pricing there is no answer but more info to be released early march . I dont feel its going to be under HTB scheme. seems like buying a house in south dublin is going to be dream!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lakeroad


    Phase 1 prices



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Addy04


    Hey Guys, is there anybody who has received an appointment but is not interested in this project anymore? I am really really interested in this project but I missed the email somehow! looking for an appointment now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lakeroad


    A friend sent this onto me. Similar to yourself we had registered but didn’t receive an email.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Addy04


    Such bad luck!

    Is anyone aware of how many 3-bed houses are to be released in this phase? They have not released any sort of site plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 gashi


    Only apartments 2 Bed are left. 380 to 390K for an apartment. Extra 40K gets you a nice duplex but all are gone.

    Not sure if 2 bed are worth 390K.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 DonnieFrank


    Did anyone book 3 bed houses Semi-D or Terrace? How much are they charging?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 DonnieFrank


    @Addy04 did you manage to secure a house? I gave my name in cancellations but didn't hear yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 joy_jdk


    Does anyone know if the builder is providing future proof attic trusses designed to assist in attic conversion? I saw it was there for few homes in Archers wood



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 DonnieFrank


    @joy_jdk It depends on the house style. Which one was yours 3 or 4 Semi-D I mean the house type? Afaik 3 Semi-D one of the types should be convertible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lakeroad


    It doesn’t appear they have. They seem to have used standard prefabricated trusses through out.

    Only the end and mid terrace 3 bedroom houses in Archers Wood used the future proof attic trusses.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I see that the 3 beds have gone up by €20k since the previous phase. As they are over the €500k threshold the help to buy grand is not applicable so effectively they cost €50k more now than just a few months ago! Very nice homes but this is just getting completely out of hand.

    I see the 4 beds are only €670k

    I wonder how much the next phase will cost.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Greeny666


    anyone know if air to water heating system is available in Hawkins wood?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 cdn16


    We are planning on installing our own domestic EV charge point and it is kind of a deal-breaker to know whether or not we can have night-saver meter. So, wondering if anyone knows if we can have a say in what kind of energy meter is being installed for the house…

    thanks



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I would expect that a smart meter would be an option (possibly the only option as these are new builds). I believe that day / night meters are being phased out. Zappi EV charge points allow users to avail of cheaper off peak rates and can be controlled via a smart phone app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 DonnieFrank


    @Greeny666 don't think there is another phase of house after this. Just the apartments.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Greeny666


    @DonnieFrank thanks Donnie, yeah, 2 buildings for apartments are under construction now,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Not enough parking spaces in the estate for all the houses!!!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭jpd


    Or looking at it another way - too many cars/house.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Yes this is very annoying. It is clearly a consequence of the value of each site.

    The developers trick is to have as many people as possible taking up the smallest footprint achievable. Result: houses are crammed together, homes that would have been across 2 floors in the past are now split across 3 floors, tiny or no gardens and nowhere to park your car.

    Amazing that developers can do this and still achieve such high prices. I wonder how long this can continue?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Well people who buy here wont be able to park in neighbouring estates like Seabourne or Charlesland.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 cdn16


    Are you talking about the upcoming apartment blocks in the estate? Because, afaik, almost all houses have at least one parking space and most of the houses have two spots on their driveways. Did you check the site plans or with any of the EAs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭ARJn


    Prices don't seem to be falling at all , new phase on archer woods(last week) started at 540k for mid-end terrace north facing 3 beds , I am guessing hawkins wood will follow the same trend

    HTB is pretty much useless in most of dublin commuter towns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Rockmyworld88


    the social housing is also very cramped to one side of the development and correct me if I am wrong ? The two blocks of apartments are all build to rent? With the council trying to secure the tenancies? I am surprised because usually it’s a requirement to spread the part v houses out evenly in a development. Shame also there are no solar panels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭JimmyCorkhill


    Does anyone remember on the first release/phase/viewing would all the houses/apartments have been snapped up by those who came to view on the first day/weekend of viewing? And whether some people ended up on a cancellation list or not?



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