Irish Property Market chat II - *read mod note post #1 before posting*

There might be. It doesn't technically say they've never applied for PP, just that it's never had it. I'd imagine it would be hard to get in a place like that anyway for building a house.

How many will be available to ordinary buyers, instead of councils,reits and charities though?

However I say that is the point they are trying to get accross is that planning was never applied for there. It's easy enough to check you just log onto the Council planning map and if planning was ever applied for on that field there will be an icon on it that the will give the details.

Its obivious that the people who have the ROW will try to buy it if possible. As strictly agriculture land it's has a top value of 15-20k/ acre. At 30-50k these people would be by themselves buying it unless someone wants it to build a house and use the large site to keep a pony.

There is no guarantee of getting planning but if local to the area I imagine there is term and conditions under which you can apply. The usual procedure would be to make a deal subject to planning. If planning was already refused on the site for any reasons you are at nothing. It fairly obvious the only way it worth anything more than agriculture value is if someone is able to get planning on it.

I imagine they are hoping the householders behind will bid to prevent this.

We really need to to examine what FG mean when they say they want Ireland to be the best country to do business.

The Chivers site debacle seems particularly galling and in my opinion needs further investigation given our history and failure to close out mistakes of the past.

Meanwhile real business is struggling to find accomodation for workers. The economy and housing should be a symbiotic relationship, instead housing is allowed to be a parasite on the economy until they are both killed off.

This company cited cost of living as a major contributing factor in choosing Shannon/limerick for their operations as did Northern trust over a decade earlier. Northern Trust are on course for 2k employees.

Reasnobly priced property gives us a a significant competitive advantage. Everything should be done to achieve it as we need another string to our bow now that corporation tax is under attack.

Imagine what Ireland could be if we said reasnobly priced housing was as important as corporation tax

They pretty much mean the sort of big business that is only interested in tax breaks. The Irish support for SMEs during Covid was mickey mouse compared to the UK's bounce-back loan system.

Covid has forced a lot of people to sit down and do the sums all at the same time. The results should surprise no-one.

Norway's wealth fund is worth over 1 trillion, that is 4 times Ireland's public debt. Over 50% of its value is made up of actual returns. The fund was set up in the 90s

Norway was a poorer country than Ireland in the 50/60s.

There are options to run a country in the best interests of all its citizens rather than powerful small interest groups.

We are one of the wealthiest countries in the world, however much of that wealth is hoovered up by 1 sector.

Hence the title of one of its biggest sales platform is Daft

You can't compare Ireland wealth resource with Norway, UAE, Kuwait or Qatar. Although they all similar in it's size, but some countries got lucky with it's natural resources, Ireland didn't.

rampant in my neck of the woods, it ll be interesting to see if the new tax laws will reduce this from happening

we re not fully utilizing our resources, its possible to create such a fund here to, but theres virtually little or no will to, particularly politically

Even UK, is not comparable to Norway public wealth. UK has 10 times less oil/gas natural resource per capita.

we ve actually been pretty good at managing our books, particularly pre 08, again, the real debt burden is private debt, its now so bad, many younger folks simply cant get access to its creator, i.e. credit, its in fact this political and economic approach thats ultimately crippling us, i.e. a primarily credit fueled economy

maybe, and maybe not, we could use our major wealth creator, i.e. mnc's, it could easily be done

That's a fancy way of saying the UK had more oil and gas than Norway

UK is more than 10 times more populated than Norway.

Insurance:

unprofitable mainly because of the “duty of care” and the endless milking of the legal system by the profession and all the claimants who top up their dole cheered on by low-Iq Pearse Doherty etc.

banks:

most unprofitable in Europe due to unworkable mortgage market where homes cant be repossessed. You know everyone deserves a free home. Let’s tax DOB for it.

riddle with cronyism (legal profession, public sector), socialism (highest dole, free housing) and all their cheerleaders (hundreds of charities and all their public funded largesse)

the day the troika will be back, will be the best day in my life. This country needs to be externally sorted out for good.

I have no sympathy for irish people who can’t afford a house.

you always emigrate to UK, Aus, nz, usa (most capitalist, neoliberal countries in the world) and then claim how much better life is there. Once coming back everyone is pushing this country to the left. Bloody hypocrites….