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Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭dogbert27




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,114 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    We are so conditioned to Keita picking up small niggles of injuries for the most innocuous of things - kicking the grass for example.

    It would be very ironic if he gets stretchered off the field in a game but somehow is fit for the next game!


    Quality performance yesterday from him. I was very impressed with his work off the ball, and then when he got it, he used it smartly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    What is our best cb pair when fit at the moment based on their last few games, i would go with matip, Konate, vvd is just getting back to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    I had read that Souness had offered some good commentery yesterday so I did a Google search to try and view it.

    Was surprised at the suggested search results.




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I have it queued up in my podcast list to play first thing in the morning in work. Be nice to start the day with a laugh 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Enjoy no bank holiday for me in the North so was a good hour killer today

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,933 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I was disappointed with most of the football pods today very little actual focus on Liverpool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Disaster sells more. Also so many pundits/journalist placed United above Liverpool and that Liverpool wouldn't challenge at the start of the season so they won't be bringing up the fact that Liverpool are title contenders any time soon.

    Many of them are still asking is VVD being back the reason for the uptick in form, still ignoring that Gomez and Matip didn't play for most the season either. Barely a braincell between most of them, they like Ole are scratching their head trying to figure out how they've got it so wrong.

    Post edited by Fromvert on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Don't post to often here but😂😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway




  • Registered Users Posts: 956 ✭✭✭internelligent


    To be fair, Liverpool were good and that's all they were. Never had to get out of 3rd gear since Utd were god awful. Sure the last half hour after Pogba red Liverpool were running down the clock. I was wondering whether that was an instruction from Klopp so as not to completely humiliate Ole and doing the decent thing.

    The story is all about how bad Man United are. After being highlighted as potential title contenders and now shown up to be anything but, Ole will be the topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭jebidiah


    I still can't get over Ronaldo. Disgraceful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Zak Flaps


    5-0 flattered Utd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    I believe he told them to take it handy as the United players were trying to injure us. No need for injuries.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Tuesday and I'm still laughing 🤣🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    I think so, too. In that regard, Utd's sh!t-housery worked - stopped us from playing. Pogba did them a favour getting sent off, more use off the pitch than on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,801 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Any word on Thiago's injury or his likely return?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    It was probably not to pick up an more injuries,

    We changed style the second Pogba got sent off and Naby was hurt ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    It thought it was more humiliating, Liverpool having a low intensity training session at Old Trafford from 50 odd minutes on & still winning 5-0



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,365 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Doesn't bother me one bit. It's a compliment.

    Our performance was somewhat expected due to the standards this manager and set of players have set. Them capitalising on Utd being fúcking embarrassing isn't really the top news. It was never going to be.

    Utd's demise is the story. They're pretty much the biggest global footballing brand in the world, and they've sleepwalked into having a 4th rate manager who they idolise at the helm, and who won't win them anything.

    I'm absolutely fine with them taking the media limelight on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Looks like it could be after the next international break



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,511 ✭✭✭tinpib


    Nothing up on premier league injuries, hopefully get an update on him, Milner and Keita before the Preston game. Maybe there is a press conference today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    Am I losing the plot or was their no Neville / Carragher Monday Night Football show last night? IIRC it's normally on Sky Premier League at 7pm but for the life of me I couldn't find it and searched other channels in case it had been moved. Has it been dropped or was it just not on last night for some reason?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭Talisman


    I watched the first half again this morning and I saw something in the first minute which I hadn't noticed in the live game. Here's the build up:

    De Gea throws the ball out towards the right back. Jota beats Wan-Bisaka to the ball. He passes it back to van Dyjk. Simple pass to Henderson, back to van Dyjk. It goes wide to Robertson, forward to Jota (sucks McTominay in), back to Robertson, forward to Firmino in space, one touch to Jota. His heavy touch puts it behind Firmino who turns to give chase. The ball lands in front of Fred who has team mates in his line of sight. They are available to receive the ball and counter attack. What does he do?

    He boots the ball out of play next to the Liverpool technical area! There are only 58 seconds on the clock.

    The camera cuts from Fred looking over his shoulder. Klopp is looking towards the players with one of those massive grins on his face. I think he knew at that point that they were toast.

    At the throw in, every Liverpool player is shadowed. Klopp sticks his right arm in the air and swivels his index finger signaling his players to move. He's a conductor playing an orchestra.

    The camera cuts to Robertson lining up the throw so the movement isn't seen, but when he takes the throw the Man Utd players have been sucked in leaving a nice patch of green grass behind them. On the goal side of the open space stands the colossus Harry Maguire who is being joined by his nemesis, Mo Salah. Where does Robertson attempt to throw the ball?

    People laughed at the idea of a throw-in specialist working with this Liverpool team, but those seconds of movement before the throw in put Man Utd in disarray. The attention to the little details in moments of games are what sets Klopp apart as a coach and manager.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Keita should be ok, his foot thankfully wasn't planted. Just a nasty whack to the shins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Klopp was tactically amazing the weekend & sky didn't give him the credit he deserved,

    I'd love to see the game from a much higher view, it looked like we exploited space down the sides of Fred & Mcotmminay

    You could clearly see on the right when we won the ball back our system changed from our usual one , that MO played inside which brought Shaw with him As Maguire was scared stiff to be one on one,

    Trent stayed back & inside , Klopp knew Rashford would be tasked to track him so that made Rashford stay up & central which left the whole right hand side to Naby , Fred & Mcotminnay where afraid to vacate the central space as they probably had worked on protecting that space form Bobby all week & when they did step out to confront Naby Trent burst forward,

    I'm not sure if the left side was the same as it was harder to see on the TV & obviously in the second half when you could see it United had changed, Did anyone get a good look at the left and was it the same ??

    It looked like Klopp knew United would work on holding us up the centrally & thought we would push our full backs on to double up with our wide forwards so probably instructed Rashford & Greenwood to shadow Trent & Robbo

    Klopp must have seen it coming & on the ball left the middle free bar Hendo & had Naby & Milner much wider so doubled up with team instead of the full backs, & with Rashford & Greenwood never reacted & thought there job was done staying with our full backs,

    Another thing which was very telling that this was Klopps plan was Hendo said post match Klopp said when win the ball to keep it simple at the back for a few passes extra than normal , ( obviously to allow United to take shape and allow us to take up our attacking positions )

    Also he probably picked Jota over Mane because Jota give you more flexibility in where he can play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    Genuinely still gutted we eased up on them. Could have made it truly a historic battering and improved the GD even more to boot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Shame Milner not even 2 or 3 years younger,

    He seems to be pulling up every time he plays 2 or 3 games on the spin now,

    Such an brilliant signing from Rodgers even better that he was free ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Telegraph piece on Bobby

    One day, a long, long time from now, it would be interesting to sit down with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, in the unlikely event he could stomach reliving this humiliation, to ask him what plan - if any - he had in mind coming into this to try to muzzle Roberto Firmino.


    Because, amid the fixation on and fear induced by man of the moment Mohamed Salah, Manchester United forgot all about the cat burglar Liverpool have in their midst.


    Firmino’s work was done long before he exited the stage 14 minutes from time and slipped into a warm embrace with Jurgen Klopp - the manager all United fans secretly wish they called their own - as the Liverpool supporters momentarily halted their brutal taunting of Solskjaer to stand to acclaim their imperious No 9.


    It was only marginally more fitting than Klopp’s eulogy to Firmino after the game. “Mo obviously gets a lot of attention and rightly so but Bobby Firmino, for people with football knowledge...I’m pretty sure when he finishes playing people will write books about how he interpreted the false nine position,” the Liverpool manager said with the deepest admiration.


    “I won’t say he invented it but the way he plays it looks like it at times. He played outstandingly well.”


    Players this clever are hard enough to shackle with a game plan. Take them on without one and you are simply asking for punishment and what was as deeply troubling was Solskjaer’s lack of response when it was clear to everyone inside Old Trafford that Firmino had United exactly where he wanted them.


    Operating almost as an advanced midfielder at the tip of a diamond, Firmino revelled in that half space just behind or in between Fred and Scott McTominay and ahead of Harry Maguire and Victor Lindelof, who seemed in a perpetual state of confusion about what to do with the elusive Brazilian. Part centre-forward, part false nine, part playmaker and, on this day, a ghost as far as United were concerned.


    Maguire should never have been drawn out to Firmino for Liverpool’s first goal inside five minutes but this is what he does - he creates uncertainty, drag players out of position, he teases and torments.


    United were already like dominoes falling before Diogo Jota prodded the ball through to Firmino in the inside left channel just over the halfway line but his positioning was immaculate and set the tone for what was to follow.


    Behind him he had McTominay scrambling to come back, ahead of him he sucked Maguire out and from there slipped a perfect pass into Salah who, with the help of Luke Shaw playing too deep, played in Naby Keita to score. It was like Firmino was playing chess all day with United and constantly had their players in check.


    It was not just Firmino’s quality on the ball, though. His efforts out of possession are fundamental to Klopp’s press and that work-rate shamed United’s own forwards, whose half-hearted approach to closing down space was one of a litany of fault lines on a truly wretched day for the club.


    When Salah scored his third and Liverpool’s fifth shortly after the restart, it stemmed from Firmino rushing back and hounding Paul Pogba off the ball before Jordan Henderson released Liverpool’s top scorer with a stunning pass. “What he did defensively was absolutely insane,” Klopp said.


    Liverpool were everything United were not: organised, bright, sharp, incisive, committed, hungry, technically accomplished and with complete clarity about their roles and their manager’s intentions. In Salah, they also have an executioner and Firmino, most obviously, revels in the attention the Egyptian attracts given how much space it frees up for him to exploit.


    Firmino was not the orchestrator of Liverpool’s third goal but it did provide a neat snapshot of the panic Salah invites. You could have thrown a blanket over United’s back four, McTominay and Mason Greenwood as they were all drawn, like a magnet, to Salah.


    It left the right side totally free for Keita to speed into and cross for Salah, whose reaction to his shot being blocked by Maguire was half a second quicker than anyone in a red shirt.


    After a trying last season, Liverpool are back with a bang and, with Manchester City and Chelsea also flying, the Premier League could be shaping up for a genuine three-horse title race.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,724 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    Shout out to whoever mentioned the 606 podcast.... genuine comedy gold 😂😆

    Haven't listened to it in about 20 years tbh but in stitches.

    Highlights (so far): the fella saying that Jose is bipolar and none of the presenters checking him up on it.

    And the guy on that wants to see either Roy Keane, Martin O'Neill or Chris Coleman (!!) come in to steady the ship 😂😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Things are looking positive on the injury front.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Guessing because the MNF was Larne V Linfield there now no Premier League show

    ******



  • Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    Why was Keane not on Sunday anyone know?

    Would be genuinely hilarious if he was the man who the board turned to in order to steady the ship. Would have been very interesting to see what he had to say, he has backed Solskjaer aswell don't forget.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Best one was the 2nd last caller claiming they were robber and Pogba was never a red card, i am sure that had to be someone calling in to take the piss

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭54and56


    Yeah, I was a bit hungover from Sunday (well well worth it!) so wasn't sure of myself when I saw Larne Vs Linfield on Sky Premier League. I thought what are Sky doing taking what must be one of their most watched programmes off in favour of a match so few people would spend time watching!!

    I was really looking forward to seeing Carra and Neville dissect Sundays match 😎



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thing about Utd is, we experienced the exact same issues after Kenny left, and it continued for 25 yrs under a succession of managers until 4 yrs ago. Expensive signings, players with big reputations, managers with big reputations, bad owners, fortunes spent etc. Shows how easy it is to happen, how quickly the rot can set in, and even with vast amounts of money spent, how difficult it is to get back to the top level. If ever there was a lessen in the importance of planned succession and refreshing a squad consistently every year, Man Utd are it. It is absolutely vital that Klopp’s replacement is the right choice and that the new manager has a healthy, competitive squad, not an ageing squad at the end of its cycle like that inherited by Moyes at Utd and Souness at Liverpool.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Amazing the difference a proper manager and system makes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    He seems like a very slow healer. His injuries always seem to drag on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭Talisman



    Robertson didn't go forward much and had a relative easy time defensively. In the first 25 minutes the furthest he went forward was about 15 yards inside Man Utd's half and that was when he misplaced the pass back to Milner.

    7 seconds later, Milner had chased Ronaldo to the edge of the 18 yard box and Robertson had made up the ground. Greenwood was nowhere to be seen, he was about 30 yards behind the ball and strolling. He should have been given a kick in the arse at that stage.

    Greenwood's most positive contribution was in the 10th minute when he lumped the ball forward into the 18 yard box from just inside Liverpool's half. Rashford and Ronaldo look at him bewildered and his manager gave him a thumbs up from the side line. 🤣

    Henderson, Robertson and Jota each received instructions from the coaching staff while Milner was being treated. After that the team sat back more and encouraged them to come forward, leaving gaps for us to exploit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Some nice spots there,

    Ole really got outdone tactically ,his team where pulled a part ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    He actually rang in sick, Probably covid but they never said,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    Some chat on twitter that Afcon is due to be cancelled or postponed due to issues in Cameroon. That'd be handy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Brilliant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,933 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I want to win tomorrow to keep the momentum going for the squad players.


    ------------------------------Adrian-----------------------------------

    N Williams---------Konate---------------Gomez------------Tsimikas

    ------------Jones---------------Morton-------------Ox----------------

    Minamino---------------------Origi---------------------------Gordon



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  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Thomhic312


    Still smiling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,843 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,396 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    No Tsimiskas?


    Edit: Nevermind, he's cut off the edge on mobile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    Predictably, was bullshit sadly. We'll just have to win the league without the three boys for a few games!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,417 ✭✭✭.G.


    As Mentioned Gordon is injured and given the state of our midfield options right now I wouldn't want to risk Jones. Ox needs a game, only reason I'd taker a chance on him. No idea who'd play instead of Jones or Gordon though!



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