Spiking.

Nobody called anyone a liar. Now you are just getting hysterical. Read the posts. I answered you- you didnt like the answer and then chose to adopt deflection tactics.

So now you have moved outside the domain of clubs to "...nearly everywhere, every weekend...". This is terrible- should I be worried? Do I need to shakedown my employees? Should I quizz the local creche?

So let me get this right:-

You are saying with complete confidence no less and without any shred of evidence whatsoever that spiking takes place (we are still talking about drugs here and not volleyball, right?) in nearly every club around the country on a Saturday night because...well..the world is a horrible place so it is. Right you are.

Claiming that I have no evidence..oh the irony is completely lost on you...there is no evidence and you my friend have just proved my point. I have repeatedly asked you to back up your statement and you cannot do it... so I really do not have to do anything- you have done it for me. But then again, who needs imperical evidence when you have such complete confidence....😂

The notion of mass regular spikings "nearly everywhere" is exactly the type of nonsense that piss off the hosptial staff.

Not that I've seen or heard as of yet. I do remember that the last time this particular moral panic was popular that a consultant in A+E medicine was on Irish TV, fairly sure it was tv3/VM news.

He categorically stated that in his time of A+E practice he has never encountered or heard tell of a confirmed case of narcotic spiking.

The most prolific known rapist in the UK, used GHB to incapacitate his victims. He 1st convinced them to come home with him, so he had control of them and the situation when the drug kicked in. A review of his modus operandi gives a good overview of the the degree of control a predator needs before even GHB is a practical tactic. Isolation, drunkenness and risky behaviour were met with a "good" Samaritan who then manipulated a situation to fully control and administer GHB in a safe(for the attacker) location.

I've also been having a trawl through JSTOR and PubMed and the widest study and review of studies I can find is from 2017.

Plenty of meat in the review itself, but from the abstract.

This comprehensive review suggests that alcohol intoxication combined with voluntary drug consumption presents the greatest risk factor for DFSA, despite populist perceptions that covert drink-spiking is a common occurrence.

Would strongly refute the notion that there is any widespread spiking going on. This is a persistent trope that recurs every few years. What's different regarding this particular rerun? A period of prolonged nightclub closures, social distancing and far more likely than any illicit application of GHB? A lowered alcohol tolerance from far less actual pubbing/clubbing and the enthusiastic drinking of youth 😉 are far, far more likely to place a person at risk than any likelihood of a stranger managing to both spike your drink in public (or stick some magic needle into you) and there subsequent ability to manage a person affected by such a substance.

I guess the question is when someone says "Oh my drink was spiked last night" what do they mean:

A. Somebody slipped in a vodka behind my back (you would have to think that would be a close 'friend' in the same social group on the basis of having some ill conceived harmless craic e.g. moronic students)

B. Someone slipped in a drug/stimulant- far more insidiuous and devious

You would think A would be be more prevalent than B.

I am curious. I have gone back and reread the article.

Now, I am only going on the contents of the article but I cannot see any mention whatsoever of people being taken to hospital and tested to confirm 'spiking'. There is nothing medical to back up these claims but strangely we have some pictures of basically a passed out student on the stairs. Any blood/urine tests?

If this poor girl was so paralyised then why was she not taken to hospital? Why was an ambulance not called? But yet they took photos!! There is no mention anywhere of the nature of this supposed drug/substance.

The article is full of vague generalities based on anecdotes from pissed up students.

Any suspicions of spiking should be taken seriously of course but this reeks.

Why are so many here so vocal about this being too much drink and not spiking ?

Seriously, what difference does it make to anyone here how they got into the state they got into ?

Why all the grandstanding about how it's their own fault for drinking too much and that they were not actually spiked ?

Why all the judgemental posts ?

What skin is it off our noses ?

That tweet is actually a prime example how this whole topic is being treated. Person claims to have been spiked, but does not answer any questions when people ask for the venue, or which drug had been administered. Valid questions which are either ignored or shot down angrily by other posters, who feel offended on her behalf. As a consequence all people start filling the gaps and hysteria spreads.

Love the “I am ashamed to be the same species as males” comment, because naturally the perpetrator must have been a man.

Tweets are forms of evidence now.

What about the bruise pictured?