Black History Month Ireland, why?

I really hate this new site for these kinds of discussions.

Agreed. It's pure shíte on that score.

Do you not include social media in your definition of media - if you believe it is just traditional formats then fair enough but the modern concept for most includes online and social media and to me you'd have to have blinkers on to not see it.

And still none of that post would or could have come seeping from right wing Yanks. It's incredibly Irish specific.

Have stood corrected on this - should have used Latinx history month.

LatinX? 😂 Ah man you've totally swallowed the right on American stuff, just as much as the Right wingers swallowed their own brand of US nonsense. You will only find Latinx on the most right on and on point naratives because apparently it's not cisgender or somesuch ballsology. Bugger all Latinos, or Latinas for that matter would use it. For a start it sounds really bloody awkward en Espanol. It's a completely makey uppey word by US college social studies types.

If they said we have limited black history I wouldn't have pulled them up on that, though their absolutely racist post, that you have had no problem with, would still be despicable.

I see what you did there. Man, could you be any more obvious? I made no comment on the content of the post, didn't thank it and only referenced it as an example you brought up. For the record I found it overly simplistic and one sided. However if we truly wanted to discuss Black history in Ireland in recent years; leaving out the jui soli loophole, the sudden influx of "asylum seekers" often with remarkable fecundity in a fair few and the fact that the vast majority would be rejected for residency if they had applied in the last ten years would be a tad disingenuous. Indeed it would be rewriting history. Not just African folks either, Georgia and Albania would be in that mix too and last time I looked they're White. Indeed the first law case that made the news on this loophole was a Chinese woman. When Leo Varadkar mentioned this in relation to recent rejections of bogus asylum seekers he name checked the latter two, but studiously avoided the first in the list. That which must not be spoken off apparently.

What is a plain fact is that Ireland has celebrated it for the last 11 years and society has not crumbled.

Agreed. Nobody, Black, White or whatever you're having yourself, really gives a damn and it's more for minor political currency, photo ops, RTE to throw in a tokenism here and there and for the bunch of vested overlapping interest NGO's to look relevant.

MLK became the acceptable Black face for White middle America. He pandered to their sense of charity and patronisation and the BS of "colour blindness" with admittedly pretty speeches. Malcolm didn't and couldn't. Plus Malcolm evolved massively in his short life. From a bloody harsh background never mind being Black in Jim Crow America, turning to crime, ending up in gaol, then becoming a self educated widely read man who turned his life completely around. He came to conclusions, sometimes from external influencers yes, but would always question those conclusions and come to his own in time. A sure sign of an actual thinker. A rare enough commodity. You could see that with his connection to Islam. Starts off as a Nation of Islam* adherent who goes to the top levels there, questions that and after he decided to dig deeper and go to Mecca and fully changed his position. Ditto after meeting various White revolutionaries and aid workers in his trips across the world, he rethought and acknowledged his own prejudices. Malcolm X was a far more rounded and complex and intelligent man than MLK ever was in my humble. Now he was a ginger too, but nobody's perfect. 😁

*a wacky American sect, from a nation that was founded by them and remains full of them. It's only got a passing resemblance to Islam and handily forgets the part that Muslim slavers played long before and long after the trade that carried them to America. It's easy to be derisory about it, but this was pre these interwebs days when we're all armchair experts after a quick google and it did give a lot of urban Black men and women a sense of pride, community and purpose and more a sense of pride community and purpose beyond and without Whitey in the mix. They weren't looking for scraps from the oppressors table, they were looking to build their own table and eat their own food on their own terms.

Ok and we're going more than a little off piste here... I was an ickle baby when the Beatles were still a band, Elvis was still skinny and Neil and Buzz bounced about on the moon, so going back a fair while. My abiding memory, a 70's one to be fair, was that Made in Japan was pretty good, Made in Germany was very good, Made in the USA was rare enough, but the lowest by a Hector Greys(showing my age) was Made in Hong Kong. Made in Taiwan similarly. That was the cheap tat. Made in China from my memory was low on the list of recognisable stuff at all. TBH my general memory is that Made in China only really took hold in the 90's?