Random EV thoughts.....

Ha, yeah they'll put type 3c plugs on the chargers hand out adapters with each car so only stellantis cars can use them

15,000 isn't that many when you consider the size of most European countries. France alone has 67 million people, so even 1% EV adoption and occasional public charging use would quickly overwhelm that network

Beware the clock on your night rate meter can drift a bit over time, as in 10 or 15 minutes different from actual time. It's worse on older more mechanical clocks but the newer ones are supposed to get messages to correct themselves but some don't. Check the time on the meter versus your phone time. I typically set it to come on quite late for multiple reasons

1) I don't want car sitting at 100% for long periods un necessarily

2) Charging warns battery increasing range but battery cools after charging stops, so handy having warmer battery in morning.

3) I have preheat cabin set to come on, the amount of preheat depends on the weather, but typically 15 minutes, I make sure charging is finished before preheat comes on. This also warms the battery and reduces the need for cabin heating increasing the range.

4) I have charging set to continue way past normal say until 9am, in case battery is very, very low but also car equalises the cells when at 100%. Preheat can also drain battery below 100% as it takes more power than charger provides, so sometimes battery is 99% after preheat.

I typically start charging at 00:25 or 01:25 until 09:00 which gives times for battery to fill to 100% no matter how low.

What rate does your ID3 charge at? Battery size?

Just wondering what you'd have to do to charge your car fully within the night rate, say maybe in 5 yrs time when big batteries are the norm?

What sort of cost is involved to get a 3-phase install done?

I appreciate it you'll never be starting at 0% battery, but just curious about what charging speeds at home will be in the future?

Surprising poor GOM for 80% of 77kwh. Roughly 61kwh. The Korean cousins Niro/Soul/Kona @ 64kwh will return circa 430-450km. I’m not comparing the quality of the cars by the way just surprised by VWs inefficiency. The Id3 is IMO a nicer car.

You're in for a surprise. Kona is as efficient as the model 3. I commute the lenght of M50 with both of them and M3 is marginally better at higher speeds while Kona gets better at city driving. After driving 52.5k km on Kona the average consumption is 15. 3 kWh/100km while M3 after 10.5k km is at 14.8 kWh/100km but tesla didn't go through a winter yet. Also Tesla’s vampire drain is an order of magnitude greater than Kona's.

EV database has a top of the most efficient cars

Kona is one of the most efficient cars with large battery right behind Tesla.

Your figures look very accurate to me Innrain. Spot on Sir.

Hmm. Fair points.

The info on this stuff takes quite a bit of weeding out i find.

I see no reason for a 7.2kw limit domestically. My shower is ~11kw. Granted, its on the CU side and doesn't run for hours at a time but with proper design, it really shouldn't be an issue.

Still, i think going forward, eventually, batteries will be fine with (commercial) high power DC charging and domestic charging will become a luxury rather than a necessity, used for trickle charging. It's a fascinating scene atm.

Yeah I feel like people who think mainstream EVs are going to have 200kWh batteries are dreaming.

Even if all the upcoming battery technologies pay off it'll likely translate into smaller lighter batteries for most cars rather than more capacity 

I think 50-80kWh is going to become the norm for most cars for the next decade. Most people are fine with a car that will go 300-400km between charges. Bigger batteries will be reserved for the luxury segment 

I have no problem with one or two stops on a journey, but I would have a problem with waiting an hour in a queue for a charger. The public fast charging network is the weak link in all this and EV sales are increasing way faster than the network, so things are only going to get worse.