Climate Bolloxolgy.

a few yrs ago a government reducing the amount of electrical power available to its voters in a Western democracy would have been laughable. This crowd are so detached from reality. they can make up all the stats and manipulate them all they want but ballot box still in use thankfully. silent rural tds watch out!

It's interesting that throughout the whole covid lockdowns, "wash your hands" , "wear masks", " 25% public transport capacity" etc , the whole climate change debate was effectively shut down. Tackling covid was diametrically opposed to the green agenda because everything had to be plastic and throw away and public transport was effectively closed. No Greta thurnberg either throughout

Then as soon as the majority are vaccinated and society has opened up the whole "climate change" stuff is ramped up again and the hysteria begins again. If anything should this not show that there is an awful lot of orchestration going on between the politicians, the media and the social media giant's. There is something not natural about it like people are being hoodwinked

They said in the 60s when we were hitting 3billion people that we'd never ever be able to feed that amount, let alone 4 or 5 billion, however the world as a whole has been eliminating extreme poverty (so something like under 2dollers a day), from 70% of the world population in the 50s to about 9% today, I'm certainly going to be alot more optimistic that the standard of living will continue to improve on the whole for the world population moving forwards. Yes we are going to have our huge hurdles, climate change and changing agriculture are 2 massive ones, however the main thing is the rate of technology improve keeps going at the rate it has been for the last 70yrs, or what I'd be more optimistic of, it will increase across the next 20yrs as things like AI, smart agriculture/smart sensors, gene editing, proper renewable energies (nuclear fusion) all come on board bigger and better, will we see our lives changed as radically as they have been with how widespread the internet has changed our lives the last 20yrs?

I think a lot of what we see today is large businesses have gotten to a point where they are too big to really innovate or drive new change.

So instead they are spending large sums of money to force red tape that makes it too difficult for new competitors to arise.

All under the guise of making the world a better place when in reality it is about securing corporate profits at the expense of the common person.

Their is a train of thought that a rapid increase in world temp could actually lead to cooling due to changes in the gulf stream etc.

I actually think it's happening on a much bigger scale than my post says. Renewables and the green economy are the only potential growth sector open to the elite to substantially increase their wealth further.

Otherwise it's watch their wealth come under ever increasing pressure for the foreseeable future.

What’s the actual specifics of “reducing the national herd” it’s sounds like they’re going to need some sort of cow holocaust to achieve the reduction laid out- don’t think the veggies will be too happy?

I wouldn't think they'd be that industrious, they're insulated from the heaves of the economy, they're probably not even aware of the damage they're going to cause.

When is the last time you were hungry in a war torn country?

Having just read this whole thread there seems to be a lack of moderate views. It’s either of two extremes. The green agenda seems to have a superiority complex when the address farmers concerns and a lot of the farming side. Want no compromise and seem terrified that some changes might be needed.

Greens, we need food. Dreamy notions won’t feed populations. Food production, no matter how well refined, is still a basic business. We were born with canine teeth to eat flesh.

farmers, we use too much fertiliser and sprays. We see the neighbours shaking a bit out and we panic and think we’re behind. We spray every wed n briar just because.

we need middle ground. Every negotiation has to have compromises

accurate enough, it's showing natural swings of plus or minus about 1 degree over the course of hundreds of years, what we're dealing with now could be a rise of more than 2 degrees over maybe 50 years, driven by the amount of CO2 (and methane) we're pumping into the atmosphere

https://xkcd.com/1732/

My tuppence worth. 

Methane and livestock didn’t cause this mess..burning fossil fuels did. It’s accepted that the quickest and most profound fix is to cut methane emissions. That’s fair enough. However if Apple, Amazon, Google etc had the same quick solution, you’d pay well for it..in fact you’d have to pay through the nose for it! Therefore if they want to cut the herd, then compensation in the order of CPO should be in line. 

There’s an element of bullying about the way Gov, NGOs etc expect farmers to shoulder the brunt of the solution, without any recourse to mahoooosive compensation. That needs to change fast before any climate bill gets written into law. Time is now for the IFA to get going and earn their €€€.

Edit.

I posted this on another forum lately.